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unamochilla2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The TFN community is kind of delusional I think. Not that I'm not also delusional, but I don't really understand how someone could honestly think that there's a reason to let the original versions of Star Wars rot away into nonexistence (which I know one specific TFNer has said before)

I believe some have said that if Disney acknowledges and releases the OOT, then it will "interfere" will the saga AKA George's vision.  Even when the OOT is released on Blu-ray, I'm guessing the 2011 versions (or newer versions) will still remain as official.

Which, by the way, I'm completely ok with.  I have zero interest in governing what others can or can't watch & own.  I'm interested solely in having the film I sat in the theaters and watched in 1977.

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^This (except, of course, I've never seen it in theaters but I want to see that version and don't care whether it's official canon or not).

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Damn, sorry to see that I was late to the digital vs physical "debate" I would have chimed in and pointed out that everyone was wrong and that both types are digital copies merely stored on different types of medium.

Anyhoo.  I was under the impression that the SE would always be canon and that OOT would be for historic and/or archival purposes.  If instead of "Star Wars" or even, (ugh) "A New Hope" they simply called it, "But remember that this one doesn't count!!1!" I'd still take it.  Get that sucker restored and archived for fuck's sake already!.

EDIT to add:  ...and honestly, just slap a Dinsey sticker on Harmy's editions and pay that guy what he's worth so I can just go buy a copy without risk.  That would be perfectly acceptable.

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unamochilla2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The TFN community is kind of delusional I think. Not that I'm not also delusional, but I don't really understand how someone could honestly think that there's a reason to let the original versions of Star Wars rot away into nonexistence (which I know one specific TFNer has said before)

I believe some have said that if Disney acknowledges and releases the OOT, then it will "interfere" will the saga AKA George's vision.  Even when the OOT is released on Blu-ray, I'm guessing the 2011 versions (or newer versions) will still remain as official.

Sure, but who really cares about what is "official"? People can call the 2011 versions official until they're blue in the face and I still won't watch them. By that logic, then no alternate version of a film should ever be released. What about all the director's cuts of the Alien films included in that blu ray set? What about the alternate versions of some of the Halloween films? What about the extended versions of the LOTR or Hobbit films? I know they're different franchises without a history the weird history of revisionism that Star Wars has, but people would have to be a little crazy to honestly think that releasing the version without giant green dinosaurs standing in from of the camera would interfere with the "saga". I don't think Lucasfilm under a leader who isn't some crazy and bitter old man experiencing PTSD because he couldn't make the ewoks blink will subscribe to that idea, or at least I hope not, but I've been wrong (many times) before so who knows

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moviefreakedmind said:

unamochilla2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The TFN community is kind of delusional I think. Not that I'm not also delusional, but I don't really understand how someone could honestly think that there's a reason to let the original versions of Star Wars rot away into nonexistence (which I know one specific TFNer has said before)

I believe some have said that if Disney acknowledges and releases the OOT, then it will "interfere" will the saga AKA George's vision.  Even when the OOT is released on Blu-ray, I'm guessing the 2011 versions (or newer versions) will still remain as official.

Sure, but who really cares about what is "official"?

Well if you are solely interested in OT then official canon is of no concern. However if you are interested in sequels then that might present inconveniences. For example, if for some reason they wanted to have Anakin's ghost, they might bring Hayden back in order to follow the canon. I gave the worst case scenario but still. :)

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imperialscum said:

moviefreakedmind said:

unamochilla2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The TFN community is kind of delusional I think. Not that I'm not also delusional, but I don't really understand how someone could honestly think that there's a reason to let the original versions of Star Wars rot away into nonexistence (which I know one specific TFNer has said before)

I believe some have said that if Disney acknowledges and releases the OOT, then it will "interfere" will the saga AKA George's vision.  Even when the OOT is released on Blu-ray, I'm guessing the 2011 versions (or newer versions) will still remain as official.

Sure, but who really cares about what is "official"?

Well if you are solely interested in OT then official canon is of no concern. However if you are interested in sequels then that might present inconveniences. For example, if for some reason they wanted to have Anakin's ghost, they might bring Hayden back in order to follow the canon. I gave the worst case scenario but still. :)

 

There is no way that Hayden will be in the ST.  Disney does not want that shitstorm when they are trying to re-make the franchise.

TFN idiots try and argue that Jar Jar is better than Chewbacca.  That alone makes them wrong.  

It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher

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If they bring Hayden back as Anakin's ghost, I definitely won't be interested in the sequels any more, so I'm covered and anyone who would still be interested in the sequels can (and would probably be happy to) watch the 2011 version, so I don't see a problem there. :-)

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imperialscum said:

moviefreakedmind said:

unamochilla2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The TFN community is kind of delusional I think. Not that I'm not also delusional, but I don't really understand how someone could honestly think that there's a reason to let the original versions of Star Wars rot away into nonexistence (which I know one specific TFNer has said before)

I believe some have said that if Disney acknowledges and releases the OOT, then it will "interfere" will the saga AKA George's vision.  Even when the OOT is released on Blu-ray, I'm guessing the 2011 versions (or newer versions) will still remain as official.

Sure, but who really cares about what is "official"?

Well if you are solely interested in OT then official canon is of no concern. However if you are interested in sequels then that might present inconveniences. For example, if for some reason they wanted to have Anakin's ghost, they might bring Hayden back in order to follow the canon. I gave the worst case scenario but still. :)

My original point was releasing the OOT wouldn't interfere with anything because it's likely the 2011 are the versions that Disney will refer to.  Disney needs to draw the line somewhere as to what is official and what isn't.  And there are a lot of fans who do care what is official.  Personally, I don't care what is official.  I just want the OOT on Bluray.

However, you have a good point about Anakin's ghost.  The same can be said for the ending of ROTJ, if the ST acknowledges it.  In the OOT, they had a small celebration on Endor.  In the SE, it was more widespread and made it seem as if the entire Empire was wiped out across the galaxy or, at least, at the various places we've seen throughout all the films.  It seems the ST has to acknowledge the "fall" of the Empire in ROTJ in some fashion considering they're still around.

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unamochilla2 said:

imperialscum said:

moviefreakedmind said:

unamochilla2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The TFN community is kind of delusional I think. Not that I'm not also delusional, but I don't really understand how someone could honestly think that there's a reason to let the original versions of Star Wars rot away into nonexistence (which I know one specific TFNer has said before)

I believe some have said that if Disney acknowledges and releases the OOT, then it will "interfere" will the saga AKA George's vision.  Even when the OOT is released on Blu-ray, I'm guessing the 2011 versions (or newer versions) will still remain as official.

Sure, but who really cares about what is "official"?

Well if you are solely interested in OT then official canon is of no concern. However if you are interested in sequels then that might present inconveniences. For example, if for some reason they wanted to have Anakin's ghost, they might bring Hayden back in order to follow the canon. I gave the worst case scenario but still. :)

My original point was releasing the OOT wouldn't interfere with anything because it's likely the 2011 are the versions that Disney will refer to.  Disney needs to draw the line somewhere as to what is official and what isn't.  And there are a lot of fans who do care what is official.  Personally, I don't care what is official.  I just want the OOT on Bluray.

However, you have a good point about Anakin's ghost.  The same can be said for the ending of ROTJ, if the ST acknowledges it.  In the OOT, they had a small celebration on Endor.  In the SE, it was more widespread and made it seem as if the entire Empire was wiped out across the galaxy or, at least, at the various places we've seen throughout all the films.  It seems the ST has to acknowledge the "fall" of the Empire in ROTJ in some fashion considering they're still around.

One night of rioting around the galaxy would not mean the end of the entire Empire.

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For The Force Awakens, I'd like to see a reverse OT story where the Empire would try to take over the Republic, trying to rule the galaxy once again.

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No way in a thousand generations Hayden is in the ST, nor Obi-Wan.

Yoda's ghost or voice, very likely, after rumours and the recent appearance of Oz in Rebels.

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timdiggerm said:

unamochilla2 said:

imperialscum said:

moviefreakedmind said:

unamochilla2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The TFN community is kind of delusional I think. Not that I'm not also delusional, but I don't really understand how someone could honestly think that there's a reason to let the original versions of Star Wars rot away into nonexistence (which I know one specific TFNer has said before)

I believe some have said that if Disney acknowledges and releases the OOT, then it will "interfere" will the saga AKA George's vision.  Even when the OOT is released on Blu-ray, I'm guessing the 2011 versions (or newer versions) will still remain as official.

Sure, but who really cares about what is "official"?

Well if you are solely interested in OT then official canon is of no concern. However if you are interested in sequels then that might present inconveniences. For example, if for some reason they wanted to have Anakin's ghost, they might bring Hayden back in order to follow the canon. I gave the worst case scenario but still. :)

My original point was releasing the OOT wouldn't interfere with anything because it's likely the 2011 are the versions that Disney will refer to.  Disney needs to draw the line somewhere as to what is official and what isn't.  And there are a lot of fans who do care what is official.  Personally, I don't care what is official.  I just want the OOT on Bluray.

However, you have a good point about Anakin's ghost.  The same can be said for the ending of ROTJ, if the ST acknowledges it.  In the OOT, they had a small celebration on Endor.  In the SE, it was more widespread and made it seem as if the entire Empire was wiped out across the galaxy or, at least, at the various places we've seen throughout all the films.  It seems the ST has to acknowledge the "fall" of the Empire in ROTJ in some fashion considering they're still around.

One night of rioting around the galaxy would not mean the end of the entire Empire.

Possibly not but but the death of the Emperor and Vader, the possible temporary overthrow of the Empire and a huge celebration are the last moments we were left with before the beginning of the ST.

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unamochilla2 said:

timdiggerm said:

unamochilla2 said:

imperialscum said:

moviefreakedmind said:

unamochilla2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The TFN community is kind of delusional I think. Not that I'm not also delusional, but I don't really understand how someone could honestly think that there's a reason to let the original versions of Star Wars rot away into nonexistence (which I know one specific TFNer has said before)

I believe some have said that if Disney acknowledges and releases the OOT, then it will "interfere" will the saga AKA George's vision.  Even when the OOT is released on Blu-ray, I'm guessing the 2011 versions (or newer versions) will still remain as official.

Sure, but who really cares about what is "official"?

Well if you are solely interested in OT then official canon is of no concern. However if you are interested in sequels then that might present inconveniences. For example, if for some reason they wanted to have Anakin's ghost, they might bring Hayden back in order to follow the canon. I gave the worst case scenario but still. :)

My original point was releasing the OOT wouldn't interfere with anything because it's likely the 2011 are the versions that Disney will refer to.  Disney needs to draw the line somewhere as to what is official and what isn't.  And there are a lot of fans who do care what is official.  Personally, I don't care what is official.  I just want the OOT on Bluray.

However, you have a good point about Anakin's ghost.  The same can be said for the ending of ROTJ, if the ST acknowledges it.  In the OOT, they had a small celebration on Endor.  In the SE, it was more widespread and made it seem as if the entire Empire was wiped out across the galaxy or, at least, at the various places we've seen throughout all the films.  It seems the ST has to acknowledge the "fall" of the Empire in ROTJ in some fashion considering they're still around.

One night of rioting around the galaxy would not mean the end of the entire Empire.

Possibly not but but the death of the Emperor and Vader, the possible temporary overthrow of the Empire and a huge celebration are the last moments we were left with before the beginning of the ST.

 True. The opening crawl will...

guys we're in the wrong thread.

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Oh shit, I honestly thought I was reading the "Is the OOT canon?" thread. Will post there.

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unamochilla2 said:

Possibly not but but the death of the Emperor and Vader,

"You sound like a motor boat". 

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Well now that it's confirmed that they finished production on the rest of the PT in 3D (and screening it this year), I assume they'll be releasing that on blu ray by the end of the year. Hopefully they will release something nice for the OT customers as well..

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unamochilla2 said:

imperialscum said:

moviefreakedmind said:

unamochilla2 said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The TFN community is kind of delusional I think. Not that I'm not also delusional, but I don't really understand how someone could honestly think that there's a reason to let the original versions of Star Wars rot away into nonexistence (which I know one specific TFNer has said before)

I believe some have said that if Disney acknowledges and releases the OOT, then it will "interfere" will the saga AKA George's vision.  Even when the OOT is released on Blu-ray, I'm guessing the 2011 versions (or newer versions) will still remain as official.

Sure, but who really cares about what is "official"?

Well if you are solely interested in OT then official canon is of no concern. However if you are interested in sequels then that might present inconveniences. For example, if for some reason they wanted to have Anakin's ghost, they might bring Hayden back in order to follow the canon. I gave the worst case scenario but still. :)

My original point was releasing the OOT wouldn't interfere with anything because it's likely the 2011 are the versions that Disney will refer to.  Disney needs to draw the line somewhere as to what is official and what isn't.  And there are a lot of fans who do care what is official.  Personally, I don't care what is official.  I just want the OOT on Bluray.

However, you have a good point about Anakin's ghost.  The same can be said for the ending of ROTJ, if the ST acknowledges it.  In the OOT, they had a small celebration on Endor.  In the SE, it was more widespread and made it seem as if the entire Empire was wiped out across the galaxy or, at least, at the various places we've seen throughout all the films.  It seems the ST has to acknowledge the "fall" of the Empire in ROTJ in some fashion considering they're still around.

A future special edition could easily remove the celebrations if it's really that much of an issue.

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better graphics in high def. gotta have moar defs

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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towne32 said:

Well now that it's confirmed that they finished production on the rest of the PT in 3D (and screening it this year), I assume they'll be releasing that on blu ray by the end of the year. Hopefully they will release something nice for the OT customers as well..

They wouldn't bother releasing it on bd3d unless they had the OT-SE to release on the same day. I wouldn't be surprised if this new 4k restoration was done primarily to have a high-quality starting point for the 3D conversion.

The big question is whether Disney/LFL/Fox will do a '97 style theatrical re-release of all six films, keep it to just the OT or skip it entirely and just do all-day marathons on December 17.

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towne32 said:

Well now that it's confirmed that they finished production on the rest of the PT in 3D (and screening it this year), I assume they'll be releasing that on blu ray by the end of the year. Hopefully they will release something nice for the OT customers as well..

 Where is this coming from?  Sources, see voo play.

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towne32 said:

Well now that it's confirmed that they finished production on the rest of the PT in 3D (and screening it this year), I assume they'll be releasing that on blu ray by the end of the year. Hopefully they will release something nice for the OT customers as well..

Do you have a link to this announcement?  All I could find was a single screening of the AOTC in 3D with Dennis Muren in November, 2014.

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Can't get the source at the moment, but I recently (like, in the past 48 hours) read that ROTS will be shown in 3D at the Anaheim Celebration.