Ha. Yes, exactly, fairy tales get pretty dark. Hansel and Gretel anyone? Grimm's Fairy Tales? I guess it all depends on what someone's definition is for themselves. I don't think the prequels got dark enough. Jedi's were meant to be hunted down and murdered by Vader. That is pretty dark to me. Sex, swearing? No. That's tacky. We don't need that unless it's true to the character. The dark I'm talking about is like an honesty with the characters. Pixar movies can get dark. Disney movies like the new one Big Hero Six has the parents die in the first 15 minutes can get dark.

But yeah it all just comes down to some good honest storytelling. A lot of bad stories are made just because they are rushed into production. So many movies are not ready to be made. Lucas was in a position where nobody thought he would be successful so he had to make the best movie he could. The whole idea he could fail helps make Empire. He knows he can't pull this shit off so he brings in help. Then later he tries to come back and make the movies himself where even if he sucks he still makes money!

So maybe my title is wrong for this thread. Maybe we don't make multi age Star Wars movies. We make really honest movies about really bad and good people and everyone else that falls in between.