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Post #743406

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DrCrowTStarwars
Parent topic
All Things Star Trek
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/743406/action/topic#743406
Date created
30-Dec-2014, 6:59 PM

RicOlie_2 said:

Whoa, I didn't see that DrCrow had rewritten his post. I would never wish harm on you, DrCrow, but the exact opposite. I genuinely hope that things get better for you and you are able to see the world more positively.

 Sorry.  I have been going through a lot lately. Money is tight and I am having to take half doses of my meds, I have been through every government program but still can not get a job even pushing carts, and to top it all off the one event I look forward to every year Christmas with the family didn't happen so I am feeling very depressed at the moment and I guess it all came out in that post.  Sorry.

I think my biggest problem with JJ's Trek isn't that they chose to take Kirk's character form selfish jerk to hero it's that they are not doing it well.  The trouble is he is not growing. He went through that inter character arc in the first movie but then in the second one he was acting like even more of a jerk then he was at the start of the first movie. Why should I care about a character who only seems to repeat the same beats over and over again and never learn anything. T

he reason I can't stand JJ's trek is the same reason I couldn't stand Voyager, at the end of the day there may be a good idea at the center but we will never see it because the reset button is always hit and the characters just keep going through the same motions over and over again. You want to see this character arc done right read the CS Forester books that cover Hornblower's early years(Or just watch the Tv series.), watch the first iron man movie or The Avengers, watch the first three seasons of Castle, watch Chuck, watch Peter Bishop in Fringe, watch GOTG any one of those handles this character character arc much better. Heck I would say that Voyager did it better with Tom Paris because he seemed to learn and care about people and by the end of the pilot I liked him, we are two movies in and I still find "kirk" a selfish prick who doesn't care who dies as long as he get the promotion at the end.

My problem with JJ's movies are not that they are bad ideas from the start(if they were that would be a lot less maddening)but that they are so badly exicuted. If i want action there are better action movies out there where I can see what is going on and if I want this type of character arc there are tons of other movies and Tv shows that pull it off better. For the first time in my life there is no reason for me to choose to watch star trek over other films and that is just sad if you ask me.