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I don't believe they have seen Harmy's version /any/ pre-SE version. Also, Adywan said in his recent interview that only ONE shot of the TIEs was CGI (for like a second and a half) and the rest are actual models and such. They complain about his adding CGI TIEs so that shows how much they know what they're talking about.

But yeah, they don't seem to understand the reasoning behind fan edits in general and are too immature to care to understand. They would rather have fun circle-jerking each other about how dumb they think people are.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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jedimasterobiwan said:

they are a bunch jerks they don't see how much he has fixed in his edit

 People that don't do anything are always ready to criticize those who actually do something. Nothing new here.

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yeah i guess that's true i just wish they'd just look at them instead of just trashing on them. because some of them like the prequel edits actually make them better films or the revisited edits of the original trilogy fixes errors does color correction and adds.

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To put it bluntly... it sounded like they were high off the smell of their own farts.

To put it less bluntly...

They are annoyed by... Somebody re-editing Star Wars for free without any obligation to watch the results.

They are quite happy with... Somebody editing Star Wars, charging them extra for all the changes, forcing them to watch the changes and also destroying the original film and making them watch only the changed version.

...idiots.

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Just watched the new clip... WOW.
Love the pan shot with the side view of the AT-AT (and the AT-ST walking on the left) as well as the new shot from inside the cockpit shooting at the trench line.  The continuity with the backgrounds is insanely well done, especially now that if you look outside the side shots of Luke in the snowspeeder cockpit the background has multiple layers of mountains and terrain.

I know how one of the issues (if you could call it that) with the original EMPIRE attack scene was how some scenes were foggy and others showed a clear sky.  Even then you had ever changing mountain typography.  Now you would never know it wasn't all shot in the same place.

It still just amazes me at what one can do on a home computer.

         

 “You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”

– Homer Simpson

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Looking great as usual Ady! Still no chance in having the clips uploaded in HD somewhere?

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Thanks for sharing the new clip, I thought there was some real good stuff in there.

If I may give some feedback that should in no way be interpreted as suggestions for anything to be changed. I think you post up clips that you want feedback on anyway so I will shoot.

I really like the snowspeeder external shots that improve movement especially the one that fly's more towards the screen past the explosion.

The new AT-ST shot I really like it's new position in the shot that makes a lot of sense as It looked like it was walking on air but I kind of miss the speed that it originally had perhaps they have a sprint function? These ones do have longer legs... That was something that made me think about their original design and that it was rushing a position while the AT-AT is stationary. If I could choose best of both it would be your new position and keeping the same speed but I like it all the same it's one of those getting used to it shots probably.

The trench looks good and I was interested in how you twisted the shield generator around a bit. But the thing that struck me about it was now there is a trench there should the laser bolts be aimed at the trench instead of the shield generator? As in the original there was nothing else to aim them at so I think you have some granted artistic license to go with "Prepare to target the main generator" and not shoot at it if you think that makes more sense.

I think that you are aware that "Watch that cross fire boys" is out of sync from the original film it's not a revisited created problem or fault it's there from day one I think. so I wonder is this a audio job rather than a video speed change?

My favourite part was the cockpit being electrified on that side view and I thought the blending here was absolutely seamless and the cockpit display flickering all really nicely done.

3 AT-AT's !!!! So Gereral Veers has already Veered off :)

As Ray afraid said I thought the shot that contained both Luke's crashed speeder and the AT-AT Legs approaching was also going to be re-scaled but I can see this is in no way an easy task. But there is one thing about this shot that sticks out and it now sticks out more because you have put a better background in. The Lighting on that AT-AT leg's are really bad and the leg's don't blend in the original or revisited. The leg's have a lighting problem that makes them look weird and It is no fault of your work it is inherited from the original film. The new re-scaled foot works well and feels better.

The thing that has always bugged me about this sequence is that a ceasefire from the AT-AT's ensue as soon as Luke crashes so It does not feel like he crashed in the middle of a battle.

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Is this still not finished? Man, I hate to think how many hours of your lives you've wasted waiting for ****** to throw you his scraps over the last SIX YEARS. I came back after a long time away to see if this ever got finished, but it's ridiculous. Episode VIII will be out before this is finished!

Any credibility that started with the intention to colour correct or "de-Specialise" these films was lost the minute he started adding bits of his own. You know, the way Mr Lucas did and pissed off millions of fans. You can't criticise Lucas but not Adywan, because although the former certainly offended many fans with his tampering, Adywan has made some lousy changes as well.

********, give it up man, you should be applying your new talents to earning yourself some serious money, rather than taking money from other people to finish what is, let's face it, a totally personal project. You've clearly learned some great skills, and I hope once you're done with TESB:R that you'll forget the rest and get yourself a job in the industry.

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How many times do we need to reiterate the difference between Lucas' changes and suppression of the original versions and fan projects that present mere unofficial alternatives? 

My stance on revising fan edits.

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And why do people care how adywan spends his time?

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^ I would post the "I Care" meme but you're right.

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Taking our money?!  It's our choice if we wish to donate to Adywan's cause as we know it's going to be something worthwhile, and the wait matters not - as he does have a life!  It's his choice what he does so respect that at least!  Seems to me like you let those clown podcasters at MakingStarWars.net decide your latest post jeez!

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Mr Ghostface said:

Is this still not finished? Man, I hate to think how many hours of your lives you've wasted waiting for ******* to throw you his scraps over the last SIX YEARS. I came back after a long time away to see if this ever got finished, but it's ridiculous. Episode VIII will be out before this is finished!

Any credibility that started with the intention to colour correct or "de-Specialise" these films was lost the minute he started adding bits of his own. You know, the way Mr Lucas did and pissed off millions of fans. You can't criticise Lucas but not Adywan, because although the former certainly offended many fans with his tampering, Adywan has made some lousy changes as well.

*******, give it up man, you should be applying your new talents to earning yourself some serious money, rather than taking money from other people to finish what is, let's face it, a totally personal project. You've clearly learned some great skills, and I hope once you're done with TESB:R that you'll forget the rest and get yourself a job in the industry.

As a newly outed member of the team, I feel I have a duty to conduct myself with politeness and professionalism in my response.

Ah fuck it. You're a massive twat!

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Hal 9000 said:

How many times do we need to reiterate the difference between Lucas' changes and suppression of the original versions and fan projects that present mere unofficial alternatives? 

 

Hey, I couldn't agree more about Lucas' suppression of the original versions. It's offensive in its disregard of the fans that made Star Wars what it is. 100% with you on that.

But as for the changes he made or ********* has made or anyone else has in their own fan edits, one is no worse than the other. Not all the changes in the SE are for the worse, and not all Ady's changes are better. Just wondering about the lack of balance in some of the praise for his work and the absurd tip-toeing around him when people want to post a criticism of one of his updates. He's just a guy who learned some skills who's meddling with a movie for his own satisfaction. That's all.

And let's face it, who the fuck ever thought The Empire Strikes Back needed fixing? There's nothing wrong with it, unless of course you have OCD and can't bear to see a minor continuity error or two. How did this movie ever survive?

So, yeah, Lucas went about it the wrong way, but Ady has put some crap out there as well. Dual of the Fates in A New Hope. A screen full of TIE fighters that, while technically excellent, demonstrates his inability to compose a balanced image within the frame, etc.

It's been six years so far, and this is the movie that most people agree has the least wrong with it. Gonna be waiting till 2030 till he finishes ROTJ:R are you? Stop kissing his ass, learn some self respect, go out and discover girls or boys, or better still, actually learn these skills for yourself and apply them in a constructive way. I know, I know, you have lives. I'm sure some of you do, but if your response is to attack me just for daring to speak my mind about the culture around Ady's fan edits, then I disregard your criticism. If you have sound arguments why I'm wrong, you have my ear and my complete respect.

Merry Christmas

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FVDnz said:

Taking our money?!  It's our choice if we wish to donate to Adywan's cause as we know it's going to be something worthwhile, and the wait matters not - as he does have a life!  It's his choice what he does so respect that at least!  Seems to me like you let those clown podcasters at MakingStarWars.net decide your latest post jeez!

 

I don't know those podcasters. I'm very capable of formulating my own opinions about things, rather than relying on pack mentality like some of you.

What's really interesting is that I know from previous experience than quite a few members of these boards share some of my feelings on this, but prefer not to incur the wrath of the short-sighted. That's understandable. It doesn't matter, I'm not afraid to call it for what it is.

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The quality of GL's and Adywan's alterations is irrelevant because what matters is that one suppresses the original version and the other doesn't. I don't watch Adywan's version of ANH but I admire it as a project. I object to the SE(+) not out of intrinsic qualities, but because of their exclusivity. Were it not for that, I'd peaceably ignore them and watch the original. It's really not a difficult concept, and doesn't hinge on subjective appraisals of the changes.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Mr Ghostface said:

If you have sound arguments why I'm wrong, you have my ear and my complete respect.

I think the most obvious argument is just:

I mean, really. People who have donated have done so because they wanted to, because Ady's version of the films was something they wanted to see or aligned (more or less) with what they wanted to see from Star Wars. Maybe you don't like Ady's edits at all, but that doesn't mean that other people don't love it to the point where they're okay with donating money to see it happen. It's like Kickstarter, a concept that may seem dumb to you can really appeal to other people. I myself have bought a lot of media that was widely panned, but I really enjoyed. I'm sure we all have.

I can't speak for everyone, but personally, I'm interested in it because I want to see his versions, Ady has become a very skillful amateur editor/filmmaker due to this project and most of his additions are pretty cool and it's interesting to see what he does. It's the same as being interested in the Special Editions: maybe they're not my favourite versions, but they're still a neat curiosity to see, and I enjoy them for that reason.

You could really make your argument for all fan edits, because what is the point of a fan edit? Most movies that come out are pretty good, why spend your time editing them how you want them? But that's the answer, as well. Because people enjoy the movie and want to put their own spin on it.

Ady's project is certainly personal in a big way, sure, but with the amount of suggestions and comments he's taken and changes he's made because of them, it's also become a community project. A community that formed by their own will around him and his project. It's certainly a labour of love for Ady, he's developed a lot of skill and, sure, he's not using it to make money, but I'm pretty sure that's not the point here. But to that end, it's a labour of love for the people who have contributed, their hard work or money has gone into creating this and they're really as much of this project as Ady himself. It's like any film, maybe the producers don't agree with everything the director does or wants, but they believe in his vision and are thus okay with putting their time and money at stake to complete the project. I don't think people are lining up to kiss his ass, I think they just genuinely enjoy his project.

I'm not sure why you're so bothered by this. I honestly don't see why this is an issue and why you feel like you need to "enlighten" and "save" these folks from this. But just let these nice folks do their thing, they're not hurting anybody, and they don't need people to tell them about life and how to live it. Just tune out, man. If you don't like a project, don't waste your time and energy telling people it's a waste of their time and energy. You'll be happier.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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Mr Ghostface said:

FVDnz said:

Taking our money?!  It's our choice if we wish to donate to Adywan's cause as we know it's going to be something worthwhile, and the wait matters not - as he does have a life!  It's his choice what he does so respect that at least!  Seems to me like you let those clown podcasters at MakingStarWars.net decide your latest post jeez!

 

I don't know those podcasters. I'm very capable of formulating my own opinions about things, rather than relying on pack mentality like some of you.

What's really interesting is that I know from previous experience than quite a few members of these boards share some of my feelings on this, but prefer not to incur the wrath of the short-sighted. That's understandable. It doesn't matter, I'm not afraid to call it for what it is.

 Yet, you pop up right on the heels of said podcast. Do not use the real name of a member in here again. First and last warning.

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You mean the real name that Ady himself put in the credits on his fan edit? Okay, you got it.

Regarding the podcast, I've never actually heard of it as I don't bother with fanboy stuff on either side of the fence these days, so while we must have expressed similar sentiments, it's purely coincidental. My thoughts are my own.

I do apologise for anything I expressed with a bad attitude, offence wasn't the intention, but I certainly don't apologise for daring to express criticism of Adywan or fanboys who are wasting years of their lives in awe of someone who is, at the end of the day, nothing more than a fan editor tinkering with movies and receiving far more credit than is due. I remember members, like Angel, who were incredibly talented artists, who suffered the wrath of the mob for daring to criticise.

I'm not the first to say such things, and I doubt I'll be the last.

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I've expressed criticism of Ady's work many times and never felt "the wrath", maybe it's because I expressed it in a respectful manner.

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It might come as a shock to some people that I've never seen any of Ady's edits. (Aside from some clips.) If he chooses to use his real name on them, that's his choice, but this site largely thrives on the anonymity of it's members.

Expressing criticism is fine, but coming into this thread to do so can only be viewed as provocative. (Start a thread in off topic if you're so inclined.) Unlike Lucas' creative choices the past 17 years, it's easy enough to avoid a fan edit you don't like.

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Mr Ghostface said:

Regarding the podcast, I've never actually heard of it as I don't bother with fanboy stuff on either side of the fence these days

Says the guy posting on a Star Wars message board.

I do apologise for anything I expressed with a bad attitude, offence wasn't the intention, 

Says the guy who rests on the old 'geeks have no girlfriends' trope as a means of insulting the people he's talking to.

but I certainly don't apologise for daring to express criticism of Adywan or fanboys who are wasting years of their lives

There we go.

in awe of someone who is, at the end of the day, nothing more than a fan editor tinkering with movies and receiving far more credit than is due.

Glad we have the arbiter here to clarify exactly what Adywan is contributing to the world and precisely how excited or not we should all be over his work.  

I remember members, like Angel, who were incredibly talented artists, who suffered the wrath of the mob for daring to criticise.

I'm not the first to say such things, and I doubt I'll be the last.

 Subjectivity is subjective.

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Mr Ghostface said:

I remember members, like Angel, who were incredibly talented artists, who suffered the wrath of the mob for daring to criticise.

 I wrathed him for his attitude, not for his criticism.

As for you, if you don't like it, don't watch it or talk about it.  Go back to your full life and leave us pathetic nerds alone.  Thanks!

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The fact someone who took the time to stage conversations with his own sock has the audacity to talk down to us, is laughable. I don't care if he has a chip on his shoulder for working in the industry, that's beyond sad.

It's no surprise to me he brought Angel up. They're good pals after all. Though it's unclear to me whether Angel initially struck up the friendship with 'Darth Venal' or 'Mr Ghostface'.