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Yeah, as much of a stickler for the OT as I am, I still dig watching Short Stuff have at it. Good stuff. I know this scene bugs many people, but at least it's not Gungans or Ewoks.
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whats wrong with the ewoks?


The Yoda/Dooku (IMHO) didn't last long enough and was too comical. Yoda looked like a pingpong ball. And I don't think it was a good idea showing us what Yoda can do. Better to let us imagine what he can do.
Also it shows an inconsistency btw AOTC and the OT. If Yoda could fight, why is he on the sidelines in the middle of the rebellion?
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I always assumed Yoda was staying on the sidelines of the Rebellion because of the near extinct nature of the Jedi Knights. The same thing goes for Obi Wan. They were both in hiding waiting for the next coming of the Jedi (Luke) at which time they would allow themselves to be found so they could train him. If they were too easily found before the time they were needed, they could be wiped out by Vader and Palpatine thus assuring the complete eradication of the Jedi. Better to pick your battles than join every one.
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Yeah, & Anakin saving the day wrecked it for me. Too unrealistic (assuming everything else is )
I just hate stupid people.

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Originally posted by: StarTrooper3000
Anakin saving the day wrecked it for me.


when?

where?


You can't be talking about ROTJ then you would be saying the OT had been "wrecked".
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More or less. When he flew his little figheter conveniently into the hanger & accidently blew up the power core (or whatever it was) that stopped the droids, I was so pissed. He is just a boy, he isn't THAT special.
I just hate stupid people.

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Same reason why the Death Star 2 could be so easily destroyed. Again.
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Not really. In order to destroy DS2, you had to not only get through the huge barrage of laser cannons and the Imperial fleet, but through a maze to the center of the thing. The Trade Federation ship required you to dock.
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The Deathstar II was only destroyed easily because it was unfinished.

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Imperial Hubris
"You don't own space, so stop actin' like you do."
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
The Deathstar II was only destroyed easily because it was unfinished.


Yes, but don't you think the emperor made a HUGE miscalculation of what was needed to destroy it? He allowed them to land on the Endor moon, recruited the most incompetent troopers to guard it, so incompetent they could lose a battle to Ewoks, and he kept himself INSIDE the Death Star while the rebels were trying to destroy it! I mean, didn't he learn from Moff Tarkin's mistake?

"Sir, we have analized their atack and there is a threat. Should we get your ship ready?"
"Evacuate? On our moment of tryumph? I think you overastimae their chances!"
"We don't want you to take any chances, sir."
"There is no need. Those rebel will learn their final lesson now."
"Sir, I STRONGLY advise you to take that ship NOW."
"Damn it, I said NO! I'll stay here and watch those rebel goofballs burn themselves! Look there goes a fat one! Woo!"
"It's not that hard to blow up this Death Star, sir. Please, take that ship. It'll take a minute, and if we win, you can go back."
"Read my lips: nnnnNO!"
"OK screw this, I'm getting to my ship."
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Famous Star Wars last words, "Evacuate? On our moment of tryumph? I think you overastimae their chances!"

I think there are a lot of other fun last lines, but perhaps they arent on the topic of this thread *might start a new one*

"You don't own space, so stop actin' like you do."
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The Emperor assumed everything would turn out in their favor, seeing as how he could see into the future. But he was wrong.
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Why was the reactor in the hangar bay?


EXACTLY. So very unrealistic.
I just hate stupid people.

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Maybe it wasn't the main reactor, just a secondary one that was sharing the main reactor's burden.

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Still, right in the middle of the hanger? & Ani's ship stopped right in front of it. I have an issue w/ that whole situation.
I just hate stupid people.

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The Emperor assumed everything would turn out in their favor, seeing as how he could see into the future. But he was wrong.


Perhaps he didn't forsee the Ewoks. OK, let's see, if it wasn't for the Ewoks they would possibly reach the shield generator (didn't the Ewoks indicate where it was?), and then they would be caught and the Death Star would still be protected. The whole atack would be aborted, and the surviving rebel ships would get away. Skywalker would surrender and the whole thing that happened inside the Death Star would still happen, and the Emperor would die. Since the Death Star wouldn't be in peril, the emperor soldiers would come in and capture both Anakin and Luke. Anakin would die, and Luke would probably be terminated. Hmnn...

I guess nobody expects the spanish inquisition, I mean, the Ewoks!
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Best action for action alone is the Maul duel. Up until Obi Wan falls in the shaft. Worst ending to the best action. Otherwise, the speeder chase on ROTJ. The duel in ROTJ blows both of those out of the water for me, but it's due to the cinematography, music, and dialogue, not the action.

I must say, the speeder joust in the Clone Wars was a good romp as well.

As for Yoda and Dooku...yeah. Whatever. Being a great Jedi isn't isolated to being a great warrior. In the OT I thought that's what being a Jedi WAS...wisdom over strength, being used by the force rather than using it. The "New Jedi" is quite different, more a soldier than a leader. Oh well.

And I did like the end of Clones better than Menace. The action is not as good, but for me the surrounding aspects easily elevate it.
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Why did you not like Obi-wan falling into the shaft? Aside from the cliche attempt at suspense...

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Why did you not like Obi-wan falling into the shaft? Aside from the cliche attempt at suspense...


Shaft?

Who is the man that would risk his neck for his brother Obi Wan?!
Mace Windu!
Damn right!

They say this Windu is a bad mutha...
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Why did you not like Obi-wan falling into the shaft? Aside from the cliche attempt at suspense...


Shaft?


Remember, Obiwan falls into the shaft that Maul dies in. Maul starts trying to make Obi-wan fall, but at the last minute, Obi jumps out with the Force and splits Maul across his equator.

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We want a plot. If I wanted brainless teenybopper action, I would watch Michael Baydiot's drivel.
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Why did you not like Obi-wan falling into the shaft? Aside from the cliche attempt at suspense...


It's the whole "I'm Darth Maul and I rock" sort of thing. He just took on two Jedi at once and didn't even break a sweat. Killed one and thoroughly whomped the other one, other than one good swing that Obi got in. And then Obi Wan flies past Maul's lightsaber, past his face, over his head, ignites a lightsaber, and takes a swing all while Maul stands there blinking. Given the fact that force users can even see a few instants into the future, catching Maul unaware to that degree, especially after Maul has shown his stuff, is unbelievable. As such, it seems like they wrote themselves into a corner and couldn't figure out how Obi Wan could beat Maul, so they just ... trailed off ...
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