TServo2049 said:
litemakr, you have a recording of the mono mix? I'm surprused to hear of it being used in theaters, I thought all 35mm prints were Dolby by 1981.
Does it have the alternate Jock voice heard at 1:00 in this documentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmLDNk8MbLs
Waaaay back in the 90s, Treadwell (I think) mentioned hearing a different Jock voice on a 16mm print. When that DVD featurette came out, I assumed this voice is what he was talking about.
I know that 16mm prints of Empire had the rarer mono mix, so I'd believe a mono mix of Raiders being on 16mm prints of that...but on theatrical prints? That I've never heard...
You are probably right. The theater was a mono theater, but maybe is was just the regular dolby mix played in mono. I always assumed it was a separate but similar mix, but I don't know of any differences offhand aside from surround effects. I will dig out the tapes and check Jock's voice, but I don't think it is different.
I do know that there is a completely different mix for Raiders which was used for some 16mm prints and is the base for most non-english mixes. There are many differences in sound effects and music editing. The music during the ark opening is edited very differently once the ghosts emerge from the ark. You can hear this mix on the French and Portuguese audio tracks on the blu ray, it's rather fascinating. I am guessing it was an early mix because it isn't as polished. Unfortunately I don't have an english version of that mix, so I can't say if Jock's voice is different. I have only heard it in english once, on a 16mm screening. The other 16mm print I have seen had the theatrical mix (in mono).
Curiously the featurettes for Raiders on music, sound and visual effects use this mix and in mono. I thought it was really odd that they used an alternate mono mix to demo sound effects and music. Especially when that mix does have stereo stems (used on the foreign mixes) Perhaps the theatrical stems were not available?
I just watched the clip you posted and that sounds like the alternate mix in mono. I guess they used it for all of the special features where they needed separate stems.