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Episode VII: The Force Awakens - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD * — Page 70

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AntcuFaalb said:

If the following is true, then I'm really fucking excited despite what I've said in the past. http://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2nyd64/rumor_potential_4chan_episode_vii_leak_possible/

Hmm...

The contention is that he is an existing character from the prequel films, and the revelation of his identity will shock viewers.

Come on, come on, Ric!

Seriously though, I have no idea who this could be. Who's left?

Well, except Boba Fett.

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timdiggerm said:

The contention is that he is an existing character from the prequel films, and the revelation of his identity will shock viewers.

Come on, come on, Ric!

Seriously though, I have no idea who this could be. Who's left

Jar Jar a.k.a. Plagueis

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I'm surprised nobody has done a Narnia gag with that shot yet. I was half expecting to see a lampost or a faun in those snowy woods. ;)

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Excellent impersonation.

It's weird to think that George Lucas is even someone of whom someone might even do an impression...

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It's a really good impersonation aside from the fake laughter. That drove me crazy. :P

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Are you kidding?  The fake laughter is what makes it.

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AntcuFaalb said:

If the following is true, then I'm really fucking excited despite what I've said in the past. http://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2nyd64/rumor_potential_4chan_episode_vii_leak_possible/

 I only read up to the point where they discuss who the two main leads are. I don't want to run the risk of being totally spoiled.

But that all fits with what I've been thinking the film would be.

Having that line be about an Awakening and then showing Boyega on the run. That made me think he was the one they were talking about.

Rebels introduced the concept of the Inquisitors outside of the EU and I thought they can't introduce something that big without addressing it in the ST.

The fact that the Inquisitor in Rebels was that species from ROTS had me doubly suspicious. I really think they might be playing a larger role than has been let on. Playing on that original description of the Emperor from the novelization: "Once secure in office he declared himself Emperor, shutting himself away from the populace. Soon he was controlled by the very assistants and boot-lickers he had appointed to high office, and the cries of the people for justice did not reach his ears."

Even ROTJ was going to depict the Emperor having "advisors" following him everywhere, though they were cut from the final film:

Then a while ago I noticed that some of the background Pau'an's in ROTS struck a striking similarity to the Emperor's Royal Guard:

So I'm highly suspicious of the Pau'ans. Though, it could always be Mas Amedda:

He was always in the shadow of the last two leaders of the Galaxy. Never calling much attention to himself. I always thought he was a bit of shady character.

In fact, here he is in ROTS wielding a Sith themed staff:

Makes you wonder just how big a roll he played behind the scenes...

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AntcuFaalb said:

If the following is true, then I'm really fucking excited despite what I've said in the past. http://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2nyd64/rumor_potential_4chan_episode_vii_leak_possible/

Still not excited. While there's always the possibility for a good film to be strung between all of the plot points mentioned, that's far from certain. And frankly the revelation that something from the PT is even acknowledged in the ST shows a lack of judgment that could show up elsewhere--I mean, it's four movies later, decades have passed, and all the PT characters and plotlines could very well be left for dead, without even implying an insult to the fans of those movies.  But instead we get bitter half-robot Sebulba collecting Jedi scrap off eBay. Great.

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Tobar said:

ROTJ was going to depict the Emperor having "advisors" following him everywhere, though they were cut from the final film:

 Erm... what?

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Ah, did they make it into the background after all? It's been too long since I've seen ROTJ.

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CatBus said:

But instead we get bitter half-robot Sebulba collecting Jedi scrap off eBay. Great.

Among other things I'm an archivist, collector, and nostalgia whore, so I'm pretty excited to see a representation of someone like myself in the ST. I think this is an excellent tip-of-the-hat to the "original" Star Wars fans and it's what I'm looking forward to the most.

It's as if they designed a character around their idea of an obsessive OT fan. I wonder what he thinks of the SE. hehehe

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Which one was "Sebulba"?

Was that Samuel L. Jackson's character, or the half-naked tentacle-head beotch?

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AntcuFaalb said:

CatBus said:

But instead we get bitter half-robot Sebulba collecting Jedi scrap off eBay. Great.

Among other things I'm an archivist, collector, and nostalgia whore, so I'm pretty excited to see a representation of someone like myself in the ST. I think this is an excellent tip-of-the-hat to the "original" Star Wars fans and it's what I'm looking forward to the most.

Well sure, but the PT tie-in is unnecessary to accomplish this.  Why not have Max Von Sydow play some entirely new character, instead of an elderly, decrepit Boss Nass?  The fact that there's so much distance between the ST and the PT is an "all clear" signal to the writers that the trainwrecks of the past can be ignored altogether.  Instead there's more of this "unified saga though unnecessary cameos" BS we get from the Special Editions.  It would be unified enough just by not too explicitly contradicting anything from the previous films.

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CatBus said:

AntcuFaalb said:

CatBus said:

But instead we get bitter half-robot Sebulba collecting Jedi scrap off eBay. Great.

Among other things I'm an archivist, collector, and nostalgia whore, so I'm pretty excited to see a representation of someone like myself in the ST. I think this is an excellent tip-of-the-hat to the "original" Star Wars fans and it's what I'm looking forward to the most.

Well sure, but the PT tie-in is unnecessary to accomplish this.  Why not have Max Von Sydow play some entirely new character, instead of an elderly, decrepit Boss Nass?  The fact that there's so much distance between the ST and the PT is an "all clear" signal to the writers that the trainwrecks of the past can be ignored altogether.  Instead there's more of this "unified saga though unnecessary cameos" BS we get from the Special Editions.  It would be unified enough just by not too explicitly contradicting anything from the previous films.

Oh, man. I didn't realize you were referring to the PT-ness of the character. I need to work on my reading comprehension.

I agree. The PT need not be addressed at all.

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CatBus said:

Well sure, but the PT tie-in is unnecessary to accomplish this.  Why not have Max Von Sydow play some entirely new character, instead of an elderly, decrepit Boss Nass?  The fact that there's so much distance between the ST and the PT is an "all clear" signal to the writers that the trainwrecks of the past can be ignored altogether.  Instead there's more of this "unified saga though unnecessary cameos" BS we get from the Special Editions.  It would be unified enough just by not too explicitly contradicting anything from the previous films.

 I think that bullet point was just written weirdly. I don't think Von Sydow is supposed to be a character that we know from the PT. Just that he was around at that time. But if he is, my votes on Kitster! =P

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Tobar said:

CatBus said:

Well sure, but the PT tie-in is unnecessary to accomplish this.  Why not have Max Von Sydow play some entirely new character, instead of an elderly, decrepit Boss Nass?  The fact that there's so much distance between the ST and the PT is an "all clear" signal to the writers that the trainwrecks of the past can be ignored altogether.  Instead there's more of this "unified saga though unnecessary cameos" BS we get from the Special Editions.  It would be unified enough just by not too explicitly contradicting anything from the previous films.

 I think that bullet point was just written weirdly. I don't think Von Sydow is supposed to be a character that we know from the PT. Just that he was around at that time. But if he is, my votes on Kitster! =P

I dunno, man.  While the rest of everything could work out fine, I can see no way to interpret this that doesn't end up neck-deep in suck.

The contention is that he is an existing character from the prequel films, and the revelation of his identity will shock viewers.

Presumably, his identity would be already known enough to viewers to shock them when it's revealed. So either it's a presumed-dead-but-actually-not PT character, or a presumed-irrelevant-but-actually-not PT character, but the only guarantee is that, if this is the case, disappointment will overwhelm any shock felt.

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RicOlie_2 said:

It's a really good impersonation aside from the fake laughter. That drove me crazy. :P

 IIRC, George does chuckle like that. They just exaggerated it a bit. ;)

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CatBus said:

The contention is that he is an existing character from the prequel films, and the revelation of his identity will shock viewers.

Presumably, his identity would be already known enough to viewers to shock them when it's revealed. So either it's a presumed-dead-but-actually-not PT character, or a presumed-irrelevant-but-actually-not PT character, but the only guarantee is that, if this is the case, disappointment will overwhelm any shock felt.

 If that were the case then my two main suspects would be either Sifo-Dyas or Plagueis. If it were Plagueis they could be working up to explaining Shmi's unexplained pregnancy.

Though if they were either of those then there's the big question as to how Han and Leia's daughter ended up with such a character.

But I really hope that particular bit of info is just wrong in the end. I really don't want any PT in my ST.

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The same article says it isn't Plagueis. Syfo-Dyas is a possibility, but I'd rather avoid universe shrinkage, if possible.

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It won't have any impact if it was just a character who was mentioned in previous films.

My vote - Boba Fett. Just you watch...