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I have had absolutely no luck finding the ABC extended version of Spark of Rebellion. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 Have you tried on ABC?

 Considering I live in Canada and don't have ABC (or cable service at all for that matter), I'm afraid I haven't, no. Thankfully, it seems the extended edition has found its way online as of yesterday, so it's all good.

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Just watched the first episode (the ABC version).  I don't love the art style, but it does have a good Star Wars feel.  I'm interested to see more. 

I wonder if we will see Darth Vader in the future and they had James Earl Jones Jones record lines for that as well.  It seems like that was a pretty brief scene to have Jones come in and record for.

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These days they can just come by your house and record dialog. With internet and satellite links, an actor doesn't even have to be on the same side of the planet anymore.

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Just watched the first episode (the ABC version).  I don't love the art style, but it does have a good Star Wars feel.  I'm interested to see more. 

I wonder if we will see Darth Vader in the future and they had James Earl Jones Jones record lines for that as well.  It seems like that was a pretty brief scene to have Jones come in and record for.

 If I recall the interview on Rebel Force Radio correctly, he didn't come in. He just Skyped in or something. Apparently Matthew Wood literally had the voice filter on him the entire call.

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Skyped in? Wouldn't that result in a really bad quality recording?

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After a promising start, it's become increasingly Disney-fied as the weeks have gone on. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a musical number in every episode soon.

The only aspect of the show that I really like is the music - plenty of cues from both the OT and PT, which is really nice.

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The fact that Weisman left after the first season suggests to me that there's a fair amount of executive meddling going on with this series. I can't comment on a shift in tone, as I haven't seen enough of the show yet, but what Easterhay suggests above would not surprise me at all.

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Yes, I wondered about Wiesman leaving too. How long before Filoni and the rest of the crew from The Clone Wars also leave or get shown the door?

It saddens me that it's turned out this way but, as I've said about the new films, the Disney-effect is what's going to ruin this franchise, not make it better.

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I don't know about the 'increasingly Disney-fied' part. It's been pretty Disney from the beginning. The pilot stood out a bit just because it was more of an OT bait than the rest.

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Yes, the bait was attractive enough but by the third episode Rebels was drenched in Disneyness. As you say, it wasn't so evident in the beginning but the franchise holders are flexing their muscles now. So, yes, their presence has increased notably.

If my son continues to watch it, I'll watch it with him. If not, I doubt I'll last the season.

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Rise of the Old Masters didn't feel particularly "Disney-fied" to me. It was actually much darker than I was expecting.

But I do wish they'd stop feeling the need to come up with crazy new lightsaber designs. Dual-bladed? Fine, whatever. Spinning? You lost me.

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Yes, the bait was attractive enough but by the third episode Rebels was drenched in Disneyness. As you say, it wasn't so evident in the beginning but the franchise holders are flexing their muscles now. So, yes, their presence has increased notably.

It's always been there, regardless of whether something distracted you from noticing it or not. And it's pretty easy to get distracted when somebody does Star Wars the way it hasn't been done for such a long time.

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The fact that Weisman left after the first season suggests to me that there's a fair amount of executive meddling going on with this series. I can't comment on a shift in tone, as I haven't seen enough of the show yet, but what Easterhay suggests above would not surprise me at all.

 They have the entire first season in the can already? Wow.

Has Weisman said anything about it? He was pretty open with the Gargoyles fandom online, so I can't imagine him keeping quiet.

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He hasn't said anything specifically regarding why he left the show. It might be because he wanted to focus on the comics. As he's the writer for the upcoming Rebels comic, The Last Padawan.

As for all these Disney conspiracies, so far they just appear to be a bunch of hogwash. Weisman is still working with Lucasfilm, just not on the show specifically.

Here are some choice quotes from an interview he did with Newsarama:

Greg Weisman: When I came aboard Star Wars Rebels, Simon Kinberg and Dave Filoni had already created all the lead characters. I like to think I contributed, but the characters existed. One of the first things I did when I sat down with them was say, “let’s talk about who these guys were. How did we get them here?”

We did that for all of them, all six. We came up with really great stuff, all three of us and the Lucasfilm Story Group, came up with really great stuff for all their backstories. So for me, this is great! That was great material, and on an ongoing series like Rebels, you rarely have the chance to look back and tell those stories. As Dave is fond of saying, “Star Wars doesn’t do flashbacks.” Well, they do entire movies that are flashbacks (laughs), but they tend not to stylistically flashback in the middle of a piece.

So [the novel, comic and show are] all part of the same continuum that the Lucasfilm Story Group has been building for Kanan, and for all these characters, and part of the original work that Simon, Dave and I did when we first sat down and started breaking the show.

Weisman: (laughs) Yeah, I know! And if that wasn’t enough pressure, at the same time, you also know that there are legions of great fans who take this tremendously seriously, are religious about it. Fans that dress up as Stormtroopers, and more power to them, we want them to enjoy this as well! So that’s the tremendous challenge that we faced in making this show, is that this has to work on both ends of the spectrum.

The good news is, I think it does. The response to Spark of Rebellion has indicated that. That it has largely succeeded. And that’s thrilling. The fact that the ratings were good doesn’t hurt either! (laughs) It’s great to be creatively praised, but the fact that it did well commercially is nice too!

I’d go back to Young Justice in a heartbeat, and I’m thrilled to still be involved with Star Wars Rebels, doing this Kanan series.

Sounds like Lucasfilm and its Story Group are the ones calling the shots to me.

As for how the show has been going so far. It seems plain to me that these first episodes are all about introducing you to the characters, who they are and what drives them:

  • Spark of Rebellion introduced Ezra and we got to meet the rest of the crew through his eyes.
  • Droids in Distress setup a connection between our motley crew and one of the more famous founders of the Rebel Alliance. Expect this to pay off way later.
  • Fighter Flight was about the dynamic between Ezra, Zeb and Chopper.
  • Rise of the Old Masters touched on Kanan and his insecurities about his ability to train others. As well as introducing the Inquisitor.
  • Breaking Ranks introduced another future series regular and revealed some of what the Inquisitor has been up to.
  • Out of Darkness reveals some of Sabine's past and her reservations about what they're doing.

This first season is all about setup. Setting up who the characters are and where they're going. By season two with introductions out of the way they can plow straight forward and focus on paying off everything that they setup before.

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It's always been there, regardless of whether something distracted you from noticing it or not. And it's pretty easy to get distracted when somebody does Star Wars the way it hasn't been done for such a long time.


Is it, really? How is that then? Surely if Rebels was so good, nothing would distract me from its brilliance? Aside from that, The Clone Wars was the last slice of Star Wars before this, and I personally thought it sailed as close to perfection as it's possible to get.

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Easterhay said:

Yes, I wondered about Wiesman leaving too. How long before Filoni and the rest of the crew from The Clone Wars also leave or get shown the door?

It saddens me that it's turned out this way but, as I've said about the new films, the Disney-effect is what's going to ruin this franchise, not make it better.

 It's interesting that you think this, but let's be real here, shall we? As bad as Disney can get, there's literally no way things in Star Wars under the mouse's command can get anywhere near as embarrassingly awful as Lucas' prequels. Nor can they be as disgustingly insulting as Lucas' special editions. Seriously, not unless they bring in GL himself to write and direct the ST after all.

I'll take Star Wars becoming a bit Disneyish if Lucas' incompetence will stay as far away as possible. 

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Let's be real here. You're talking mince.

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As is usual with the Lucas apologist side of things, you have nothing of substance to offer up in response. 

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"Gathering Forces" is really good!!!

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I liked the idea of Empire Day in the last episode but the rest was just a complete rip on Johnny Mneumonic.

As the series goes on, I find myself getting more bored by the episodes.  It's gotten tired fast.

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Yes! Thank you for posting the link. Now I can finally see this thing. :)

EDIT: Do I have to sign up in order to see it on the site?

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Nope, just click and watch! 

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:(

U.S. customers only, I guess. I could probably buy it, but I'd rather get the whole season on Netflix in a year or so, so I'll just have to wait.