Yeah, sounds pretty failsafe. "You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'." --Vizzini (Wallace Shawn), The Princess Bride ------------------------- Kevin A Webmaster/Primary Cynic kapgar.typepad.com kapgar.com
Well but it's not like they torture the cow before they kill it. Why would they do that, to get information? It's a cow, it's not a MI-6 agent. as far as I know, that bolt in the head thing is how they usually kill cows. “Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
Thing is, because this is over so quickly, it's not as bad as, say, chasing the cow around the field and shooting it in the head. It may not be torture in the conventional sense of the word, but it does result in tougher meat.
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I dont take full stock in PETAs facts, but in their outreach video they say that the bolt thing is fine and dandy - but there are some issues. Each cow gets 1 hit with the bolt gun, if it doesnt kill the animal by chance, it goes right on through the process without further attempts to humanely kill it. I saw video of cows being boiled alive...chopped into while still alive....very very uncool. Im not a vegetarian, I dont blindly support PETA. But slaughterhouse practices definitely need to be reformed. Current FDA ruling allows cows to be butchered that are dragged from the truck when they arrive. Also, Cows with cancerous growths or other abnormalities are able to be labled GRADE A as long as the infected/suspect region isnt included. There are lots of curious short-cuts and loopholes...as with many things, but some things should be under tighter watch. I mean, c'mon we are eating this stuff...we should be pretty concerned with quality. "You don't own space, so stop actin' like you do."
That is the kind of thing PeTA should go after, rather than attack legitmate businesses and brainwash kids into thinking they're mother's are horrible people.
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab Wow. That is truly disgusting.
That is the kind of thing PeTA should go after, rather than attack legitmate businesses and brainwash kids into thinking they're mother's are horrible people.
Unless, of course, their mothers are.
I laughed so hard at the last part of your reply. I can seriously remember asking my mom what her deal was with serving veal once...I mean, she hadnt done it since I was like 4-5, but when I found out what veal was I went home and demanded an explanation. Its just a funny thing I guess. Im an omnivore - yet and still, I dont condone certain practices. (Veal, Foie Gras, etc)
"You don't own space, so stop actin' like you do."
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab UH... Ric, were you paying attention? Me and Bossk just agreed that it was humane and non-torturous.
What I meant is that this is the wat they ALWAYS kill the cows, it's not the most humane way. That's why I said "why would they torture the cow", I meant that they always kill that way, and not in a torturing way. “Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
you knoqw since i movies to university there are manythings that i have found that i hate, ill list them maybe some of you will know my pain:
- the drunk ass girls that dont know how to drink and so you have to take care of them or else they will get kicked out of res. and they dont have the sense to see that they are wasted and at least try to pass out. - the shitty ass caf food that looks like it was made 3 years ago, and the stuff it is made out of was farmed or killed 6 years ago. - the shitty profs that scan there chicken scratch hand written notes on the internet and say i have posted the notes. - the shitty ass class like APSC 150 that give you assignments as follows; "here is a radio tower, show me all the components and tell me how they could fail." but it is the first week i havent learned anything, never worked on or dont anything with a radio tower, and this picture you have given me is a line with 3 other diagonal lines coming off it with a square box at the bottem. - did i mention my shitty physics prof.
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab Did I mention cussing?
Hell no!
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
I think one should limit cursing as much as one can, it makes a person seem rude and crude. Plus, kids might be listening/reading you don't want them copying your bad habits do you?
Well if there's kids around, or my grandma or anyone I want to really respect, I do not curse at all. But when I'm between friends or in a unformal situation, I do it almost all the time, it's like Joe Pesci in "Casino", I use the F word 40 times a minute. And I don't see anything wrong with it. “Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
Like dangerously stupid people in high office who need to be deposed.
Something needs to be done about that shit first.
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Argh Fuck!
NgHeh... "The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Goering.
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." - Goebbels.
"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - Orwell.
Originally posted by: Warbler I think one should limit cursing as much as one can, it makes a person seem rude and crude. Plus, kids might be listening/reading you don't want them copying your bad habits do you?
