Her importance to the film can't be overstated. Same with American Graffiti. Excellent biographical chapter from Kaminski's Secret History Of Star Wars;
Nothing beats Star Wars fans (well, some of them anyway) for fixating on the age-old tradition of revisionism.
What? He didn't have the whole thing mapped out from the start? Oh, no, my world has ended.
Wake up and smell the proverbial; none of this is new or revolutionary - even Tolkien went back and revised The Hobbit to fit in with The Lord Of The Rings.
Oh, and one more thing. Someone referred to Gary Kurtz as a father. No he's not; he's a mother.
Easterhay said:
What? He didn't have the whole thing mapped out from the start? Oh, no, my world has ended.
No one's written anything to that effect, though, and the topic itself is definitely worth a discussion. Which seemed to die out prior to your post. Bad day?
Easterhay said:
Oh, and one more thing. Someone referred to Gary Kurtz as a father. No he's not; he's a mother.
Ouch :D
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Bad day?
Glad to hear that :)
darklordoftech said:
RicOlie_2 said:
Not to mention that it demonstrates that George didn't intend for there to be mandatory Jedi celibacy and rules against loving.
Good point. This makes me very happy.
Ah, that explains it.
Er, yeah, whatever.
Easterhay said:
Nothing beats Star Wars fans (well, some of them anyway) for fixating on the age-old tradition of revisionism.
What? He didn't have the whole thing mapped out from the start? Oh, no, my world has ended.
Wake up and smell the proverbial; none of this is new or revolutionary - even Tolkien went back and revised The Hobbit to fit in with The Lord Of The Rings.
Oh, and one more thing. Someone referred to Gary Kurtz as a father. No he's not; he's a mother.
No one is mad because Lucas changed the story as he was going, what people get mad about is that he won't admit he ever did it.
He has been all over the place for the past 40 years on whether there were 12 movies, 9 movies, 6 movies, etc. Its when he says in 2005 to Leslie Stahl, "There was never a Sequel Trilogy, the Saga has always been 6 movies and its about the Tragedy of Darth Vader."
And then he goes on Charlie Rose last week, and talks about the Sequel Trilogy now, and how he always had an outline and notes for it.
I know. And I've known there were originally twelve movies planned since I read the book by Alan Arnold.
The difference is, I really don't care that much about it. He contradicted himself, he lied, who cares? What, you thought Lucas was perfect?
Easterhay said:
I know. And I've known there were originally twelve movies planned since I read the book by Alan Arnold.
The difference is, I really don't care that much about it. He contradicted himself, he lied, who cares? What, you thought Lucas was perfect?
As Luke said in Star Wars as Han walks away, "I care!" LOL!
Were just answering a topic on a message board, and that's fine if you don't care. But if you don't care so much, why are so many posts on this thread in the last page from you? ;-)
He cares about our reactions to his posts. The only winning move is not to play.
Easterhay said:
Wake up and smell the proverbial; none of this is new or revolutionary - even Tolkien went back and revised The Hobbit to fit in with The Lord Of The Rings.
Tolkien tried to revise the Hobbit to fit in with LOTR. But he stopped because he was worried that the Hobbit would loose it's original intention: being a fairy tale for children. And so he scrapped his plans of a Revised Hobbit.
Rogue One is redundant. Just play the first mission of DARK FORCES.
The hallmark of a corrupt leader: Being surrounded by yes men.
‘The best visual effects in the world will not compensate for a story told badly.’ - V.E.S.
‘Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.’ - SilverWook
TV's Frink said:
He cares about our reactions to his posts. The only winning move is not to play.
But I want to play Global Thermonuclear War against him?
Haarspalter said:
Easterhay said:
Wake up and smell the proverbial; none of this is new or revolutionary - even Tolkien went back and revised The Hobbit to fit in with The Lord Of The Rings.
Tolkien tried to revise the Hobbit to fit in with LOTR. But he stopped because he was worried that the Hobbit would loose it's original intention: being a fairy tale for children. And so he scrapped his plans of a Revised Hobbit.
He revised the Riddles in the Dark chapter so that the nature of the ring was more like that of Lord of the Rings. This revision is even mentioned in Fellowship, where Gandalf tells Frodo that Bilbo initially lied about his encounter with Gollum (Riddles in the Dark in the first edition) and that what was in the revised edition was what really happened.
Easterhay said:
Nothing beats Star Wars fans (well, some of them anyway) for fixating on the age-old tradition of revisionism.
What? He didn't have the whole thing mapped out from the start? Oh, no, my world has ended.
Wake up and smell the proverbial; none of this is new or revolutionary - even Tolkien went back and revised The Hobbit to fit in with The Lord Of The Rings.
Oh, and one more thing. Someone referred to Gary Kurtz as a father. No he's not; he's a mother.
Tolkien didn't send out an order to have all those old copies of the book destroyed. Lucas has done so with regards to 35mm prints.
Sorry to hear Gary Kurtz whizzed in your coffee. ;)
Where were you in '77?
Easterhay said:
Someone referred to Gary Kurtz as a father. No he's not; he's a mother.
What a delightful image you inspire.
So... George Lucas and Peter Bogdonavich are a lot closer than I previously thought, huh?
I’m just here because I’m driving tonight.
CO said:
Were just answering a topic on a message board, and that's fine if you don't care. But if you don't care so much, why are so many posts on this thread in the last page from you? ;-)
Haarspalter said:
Easterhay said:
Wake up and smell the proverbial; none of this is new or revolutionary - even Tolkien went back and revised The Hobbit to fit in with The Lord Of The Rings.
Tolkien tried to revise the Hobbit to fit in with LOTR. But he stopped because he was worried that the Hobbit would loose it's original intention: being a fairy tale for children. And so he scrapped his plans of a Revised Hobbit.
generalfrevious said:
There was never meant to be three movies anyways. So clearly George made up the other films and claimed his first draft was split into three movies for time constraints. He got lucky only once.
Everyone knows SW was never meant to be episode IV until after Empire came out, so the PT was never meant to exist until George decided to make them in the 90s. When he made them it was clear to everyone that he haven't seen the originals in years, hence the obvious contradictions.
The PT had been been on the cards for a long time. Back in 83/84, Peter Mayhew stated in an interview with British magazine, Look In that any subsequent SW films would probably take place in the past and cover events that occurred before many of the major characters were even born.
This tallies with what eventually transpired with the prequels. Also, according to a feature that I read in another UK mag during 85/86, after the success of "Ep IV", GL had wanted to make prequels that provided a backstory but Fox wasn't enthused by the idea and so instead he proceeded with TESB and ROTJ.
Unfortunately I was only a child at the time and had no idea how significant these articles might become in the future, otherwise I would've held onto them.
“Logic is the battlefield of adulthood.”
My goodness, Look In, that really takes me back!
Easterhay said:
Quite simply, because I come onto this forum every Preston Guild (Northern England colloquialism, just in case you didn't know) and when I do, in the short time that I'm here, I try and address as many comments as time allows before I have to get on with doing the job that puts food on the table.
Lucky us.
You don't know the half of it.
DuracellEnergizer said:
Easterhay said:
Someone referred to Gary Kurtz as a father. No he's not; he's a mother.
What a delightful image you inspire.
At least Kurtz could direct the actors on the set of SW better than George ever could.