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STAR WARS: The Completionist's Saga (Episodes I-VI) Blu-ray Set (* unfinished project *)

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While I try and think of a much more wittier title for this thread, read below:

<span style=“text-decoration: underline;”>BACKGROUND INFO</span>

When I bought the Star Wars Complete Saga Blu-ray, I was thrilled to have all the films in HD. However, being the completionist that I am, I was saddened (but not surprised) to see that Lucas & co. didn’t include both the '97 SE versions and the theatrical versions of the OT. I was also disheartened to see a lack of the same for the PT (minus the '97 SE). I like the changed made to TPM, but you can’t go your whole life without seeing the puppet Yoda.

This is my idea, what if there was a custom boxset that included Episodes I-VI with: Original theatrical presentation***** (HD for TPM, SD for OT), '97 Special Edition presentation (SD), and the 2011 Blu-ray versions, but color corrected. <span style=“line-height: 14.3999996185303px;”>Each version would probably need to be split onto it’s own disc, but would still be a nice set.</span>

There would also be a much better Special Features disc too. Take all of the features from the existing DVDs and the ones from the Blu-ray (screw the RC parodies) and make them much more accessible than how they were presented on the Blu-ray.

<span style=“text-decoration: line-through;”>I would like to use all SD sources for the theatrical presentations of the OT, maybe the GOUT discs? If permission was granted, maybe one of the HD reconstructions by Harmy or Team -1’s rips? Just wishful thinking here… As for the '97 SE versions, use either Laserdisc or the TV-rips. All SD.</span> In regards to mixes, let’s not discuss that just yet.

If anyone has any suggestions for sources, please let me know. I would love to see something like this happen in the coming years.

*****IIRC, AOTC and ROTS had minimal changes, optional discs?

<span style=“text-decoration: underline;”>THE SOURCES</span>

The Phantom Menace: Theatrical SD (Laserdisc - althor1138), DVD HD (1080p HDTV rip), 2011 (Blu-ray)

Attack of the Clones: DVD HD (1080p HDTV rip), 2011 HD (Blu-ray)

Revenge of the Sith: DVD HD (1080p HDTV rip), 2011 HD [Theatrical?] (Blu-ray)

A New Hope: Theatrical HD (Laserman), '97 (Laserman, Laserdisc OR TVRip), 2004 HD (1080p HDTV rip), 2011 HD (Blu-ray)

The Empire Strikes Back: <span style=“line-height: 14.3999996185303px;”>Theatrical HD (Laserman), '97 (Laserdisc OR TVRip), 2004 HD (1080p HDTV rip), 2011 HD (Blu-ray)</span>

<span style=“line-height: 14.3999996185303px;”>Return of the Jedi: </span><span style=“line-height: 14.3999996185303px;”>Theatrical HD (Laserman), '97 (Laserdisc OR TVRip), 2004 HD (1080p HDTV rip), 2011 HD (Blu-ray)</span>

<span style=“line-height: 14.3999996185303px;”><span style=“line-height: 14.3999996185303px;”>Extras</span><span style=“line-height: 14.3999996185303px;”>: Empire of Dreams (SD), The Birth of a Lightsaber (SD), From Star Wars to Jedi (SD), The Making of Star Wars (SD), Making of Episodes I-III (SD), Making of the '97 SE Feature (SD), Trailers (SD/HD), Definitive Collection Extras (SD), Deleted Scenes (SD/HD).</span></span>

“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017

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Sans bonus material, there are projects already underway to restore the OOT and '97SE, as well as color correcting the BluRays. I'd say bide your time until those ripen and make your own custom box set. 

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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Hal 9000 said:

Sans bonus material, there are projects already underway to restore the OOT and '97SE, as well as color correcting the BluRays. I'd say bide your time until those ripen and make your own custom box set. 

 I agree. Wait for Team-1's scans for the OUT or a more complete version of Harmy's despecialized trilogy. If you're impatient, for the OUT, use dark_jedi's GOUT V3 DVDs. That would give you all three in SD. For the 97's, use the TB versions. These are, I believe, either laserdisc rips of SD widescreen broadcasts. I believe there may be a color corrected version of the 2011's out there at the moment.

For TPM, there really isn't a decent HD reconstruction of the theatrical, so you could either use the TB or just the DVD edition, which is essentially a director's cut. Also for TPM, try to find a color corrected 2011 with added grain to somewhat ride the film of waxy looking faces and possible bringing out detail elsewhere. Then just the DVD and Blu Ray versions of AOTC and ROTS. You may also want to include the 2004 versions for completionist's sake, though these wold be SD, and you really wouldn't want to bother with color correction.

For special features, all the bonus disc material from the PT DVDs, all the commentary tracks for each film, Empire of Dreams, The Birth of the Lightsaber, From Star Wars to Jedi, the Definitive Collection laserdisc bonus material, and whatever is included in the Complete Saga set. 

This is something that I've been wanting for a while, so it would be nice to see if this comes to light. I would love to see some box set mockups and disc covers as well. Good luck!

EDIT: This may be a good TPM project to watch for this: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THE-PHANTOM-MENACE-THEATRICAL-HD-Toppers-Version/topic/17137/

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So, here's just an ideal list for sources:

The Phantom Menace: Theatrical (Laserdisc OR Toppers?), DVD (1080p HDTV rip), 2011 (Blu-ray)

Attack of the Clones: DVD (1080p HDTV rip), 2011 (Blu-ray)

Revenge of the Sith: DVD (1080p HDTV rip), 2011 (Blu-ray)

A New Hope: Theatrical (Team -1), '97 (Laserdisc OR TVRip), 2004 (1080p TVRip), 2011 (Blu-ray)

The Empire Strikes Back: Theatrical (Team -1), '97 (Laserdisc OR TVRip), 2004 (1080p TVRip), 2011 (Blu-ray)

Return of the Jedi: Theatrical (Team -1), '97 (Laserdisc OR TVRip), 2004 (1080p TVRip), 2011 (Blu-ray)

Extras: Empire of Dreams (SD), The Birth of a Lightsaber (SD), From Star Wars to Jedi (SD), The Making of Star Wars (SD), Making of Episodes I-III (SD), Making of the '97 SE Feature (SD), Trailers (SD/HD), Definitive Collection Extras (SD), Deleted Scenes (SD/HD).

The question is whether to use HDTV rips or DVD rips of the 2004 editions of the OT. The HDTV rips look very good and would benefit from a better bitrate and encode than 480p MPEG-2. But, hey, I've got time to decide.

Years to go, but it'll be a nice looking collection once all is done.

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MGGA (Make GOUT Great Again):
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-GOUT-Preservation-and-Restoration/id/55707

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If you want the 'original' SE version, I know a collector with a 35mm print of the 1997 ANH.

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Having a film sourced SE Trilogy transferred to blu-ray would be MOST exciting.  On AVS Forums there is a user who claims to have an SE Trilogy broadcast recorded, each movie on their own d-vhs tape.  I have only gotten 1 response from him and that was that he wouldn't give them up.  All I was asking for was the chance to get or make rips of the tapes.

In the end, it would be nice to have one film sourced set of all six films and alternative versions along with documentary stuff all in one place and with one consistently cool packaging.

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The 1080p Theatrical Cut of TPM was recently aired on Austrian TV two years ago. Definitely the highest quality source of TPM besides the DNR'd Blu-Ray Edition. I hope it will be shown this way again sooner than later.

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Does anyone have a rip from the Austrian airing? I'm guessing all that would need to be done is replace credits and crawl?

As for the 2011 editions, due to them being readily available in retail stores, I don't know if I would include them in the set, unless they were color corrected. I'm hesitant on the color correction because that's the way Lucas intended that particular version, despite it being completely off.

Plus, I would have to re-encode them in AVC with a max bitrate of 25mbps with 640kbps AC3 5.1 due to limitations of my Blu-ray authoring program, unless everyone is fine with those data rates.

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MGGA (Make GOUT Great Again):
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-GOUT-Preservation-and-Restoration/id/55707

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JawsTDS said:

A New Hope: Theatrical HD (Laserman)

 Isn't the Laserman project dead an incomplete? Why not use a GOUT source? If not, can someone link the thread?

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I'm just going by what my source wanted me to credit them as, but as far as I know, this 35mm scan of the OT is happening, and most likely, so is the '97 SE ANH print.

Does anyone think the "TB" TPM rip would be a good source? I'm hesitant as it's 4gb and MPEG-2. It's a 133 minute movie and that should not fit on a single layer DVD. I'm deciding between that and the laserdisc rip.

“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017

MGGA (Make GOUT Great Again):
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-GOUT-Preservation-and-Restoration/id/55707

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JawsTDS said:

I'm just going by what my source wanted me to credit them as, but as far as I know, this 35mm scan of the OT is happening, and most likely, so is the '97 SE ANH print.

Does anyone think the "TB" TPM rip would be a good source? I'm hesitant as it's 4gb and MPEG-2. It's a 133 minute movie and that should not fit on a single layer DVD. I'm deciding between that and the laserdisc rip.

The TB TPM isn't the greatest although it at least allows folks to watch a theatrical version of the movie.  A solid laserdisc rip would be better to work with but it will take a little more time I'm sure.

This is just my opinion, so you know.

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I used althor1138's LD rip and reformated & encoded it to MPEG-2. It's SD, but it's an amazing looking transfer. All the prequels have been compiled, now it's time to move to the OT. 

For the OT '97 SE, would people prefer LD rips or TB sourced material? Both have the terrible DVNR, so both won't look great, but TB is digital, but once again, it's MPEG-2 and 4gb, something I'm very weary of. DarkJedi made it look very good, but I doubt I could do the same with it. For ANH '97, I have a chance to use a film print, which I think I will end up doing, but ESB '97 and ROTJ '97 wouldn't be.

“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017

MGGA (Make GOUT Great Again):
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-GOUT-Preservation-and-Restoration/id/55707

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JawsTDS said:

 For ANH '97, I have a chance to use a film print.

This would be MOST cool.

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JawsTDS said:

I used althor1138's LD rip and reformated & encoded it to MPEG-2. It's SD, but it's an amazing looking transfer. All the prequels have been compiled, now it's time to move to the OT. 

For the OT '97 SE, would people prefer LD rips or TB sourced material? Both have the terrible DVNR, so both won't look great, but TB is digital, but once again, it's MPEG-2 and 4gb, something I'm very weary of. DarkJedi made it look very good, but I doubt I could do the same with it. For ANH '97, I have a chance to use a film print, which I think I will end up doing, but ESB '97 and ROTJ '97 wouldn't be.

 Are you trying to go with a visual consistency for each trilogy? If so, use TB for all the 97's. If not, go with your print for ANH and TB for the other two.

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For ANH '97, I have a chance to use a film print

That would be awesome! It would render pretty much every HD ANH special edition release obsolete. Assuming that the print is higher quality than negative one's work, the two could be combined to create a new despecialized and semi specialized as well!

Needless to say, I am looking forward to this release...

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I haven't seen the print yet, so I can't comment on quality, but I doubt it would look bad. I can definitely see the film print of ANH 97 being used. ;-)

Worked more on the prequel discs today and got both the HD DVD version and the theatrical LD rip of TPM on one dual-layer BD-r. It's looking pretty good thus far.

“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017

MGGA (Make GOUT Great Again):
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-GOUT-Preservation-and-Restoration/id/55707

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call it HDTV DVD instead of HD DVD. There is no HD DVD release of any of the star wars films.

Also, the DTS theatrical track of episode 1 is somewhere on the internet. I recommend you use that instead, as well of the DTS tracks of the other films (2 and 3, and the 97 trilogy)

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I haven't touched the mixes yet, because I know there are so many to deal with. Right now, I've got Dolby 5.1 Surround AC3 384-448-640kbps tracks for each film, minus the Theatrical HD version of the OT. Not sure if I want to include DTS as my Blu-ray authoring program doesn't support it.

“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017

MGGA (Make GOUT Great Again):
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-GOUT-Preservation-and-Restoration/id/55707

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I have these 97' versions of the DVD9's. I bought them years ago online and they look like a direct rip of the LD.

If those will help.

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http://www.prillaman.net/starwarsdvdreview-bootleg2.html

OK! so these are what i am talking about - There was DVD5 version of this 97' trilogy and Dvd9's of them. I have the 9's.  They are actually factory pressed DVD bootlegs.

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Necrobump. You can shoot me later. Whatever happened to the 97se ANH film print and the D-VHS of the 97 special editions? They all sounded very promising. As someone who doesn't completely hate the special editions but wants to get away from the horrible 2004/2011 restoration, it would be nice to know what is going on.

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Danfun128 said:

Necrobump. You can shoot me later. Whatever happened to the 97se ANH film print and the D-VHS of the 97 special editions? They all sounded very promising. As someone who doesn't completely hate the special editions but wants to get away from the horrible 2004/2011 restoration, it would be nice to know what is going on.

 I'm still planning to work on this, but have some other commitments I'm trying to fulfill at the same time. Scans are being done though.

“That said, there is nothing wrong with mocking prequel lovers and belittling their bad taste.” - Alderaan, 2017

MGGA (Make GOUT Great Again):
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Return-of-the-GOUT-Preservation-and-Restoration/id/55707