titanic said:
Doctor M said:
@titanic - SOME Disney films, particularly the 'B' films (less popular) have more grain and look better on BD. The guide needs some updating in that regards.
What movies are you thinking about?
Well, the most popular ones.. (Pinocchio, Dumbo, Cinderella, Peter Pan, Lady and the Tramp, SLeeping Beauty, Jungle Book, Beauty and the Beast, Lion King, etc. etc.)
From what it seems the only ones I could buy on Bluray, that haven't been over-restored and retain grain are:
-The Rescuers
-The Rescuers down under
-The Great Mouse Detective
isn't that right?
I could get The little mermaid, but I don't want to because it has an error with the titles and it makes me furious (the misplacement of the main title which is out of sync with a music effect)
Also, i could get Fox and the Hound, but I want the full screen of the DVD.
So, other than those I don't see anything else..
also, i guess I could buy all the Blurays from Pocahontas and on, right?
Since they were digital or something..
At least I have the HD version of the unrestored Sword in the Stone, and Saludos Amigos, which are great.
My thoughts on these movies as regard to Blu-ray. This doesn't supersede the original list, so much as this favors HD and makes allowances for overcleaned transfers:
Pinocchio isn't great on BD, they really killed it. I wouldn't go with that.
Dumbo doesn't seem to have ANY version that's correct outside of a laserdisc. If that's not an option the BD is probably as wrong as any other digital transfer.
Cinderella, again, unless you are going the laserdisc route, you might as well get the BD. It's as bad as the rest of the digital releases and is at least HD.
Peter Pan - I'm probably alone in liking the '02 Special Edition DVD, but I can't stand the BD's colors.
Lady and the Tramp - I didn't find the BD to be awful. It won't have grain any more than the rest of the above, but I don't think they messed it up too badly.
Sleeping Beauty, there are many who would disagree, but while over-clean, this shows better accuracy IN SOME AREAS on BD. If you must have it on BD, you could do worse.
Jungle Book - No. Disney hasn't figure out how to properly restore Xerography based animation yet. I wouldn't go BD on this one.
Beauty and the Beast - Much talk, few answers. There is a laserdisc preservation to HD in the works... don't expect grain, but it'll at least be the original theatrical version of the film.
Lion King - If you want the un-screwed with animation, you need to go VHS/Laserdisc source. Otherwise, the BD is a good option.
Etc. etc. - Yes and no.
The Rescuers - I haven't even decided myself. I originally said yes, studying it I'm not in love with how hard it's been cleaned, but the original DVD is pretty poor too. The BD probably has a slight edge.
The Rescuers Down Under - Yes, with no reservations.
The Great Mouse Detective - Yes, but WITH reservations. Scrubbed, but improved over the previous release. There are compelling reasons to get this on BD as well.
The Little Mermaid - Has Disney ever made good on the promise of a corrected disc? I've heard nothing following this up.
Fox and the Hound - Scrubbed more than you'd think for that title, but the AR change is more on one side and less on another. A bit of a wash there.
Pocahontas and on, I don't think there are any issues to worry about.
Sword in the Stone - I'd go for an HDTV version, or the DVD (which is nearly the same quality).
Saludos Amigos - Is this even on BD? I'd probably still favor the Walt & El Grupo release unless they used that transfer for a recent BD.