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CatBus
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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25-Sep-2014, 5:48 PM

A call has been made to point out the logical fallacies and misinformed parts of your post, the ones that made Harmy too nauseous to respond to.  Much as I think no actual person on earth could be so unaware of the world in which they live, I'm going to respond one more time as if you were not just trolling us.

MaximRecoil said:

Yes, there is a reason, and it has already been pointed out. In short, the masters they used were essentially glorified 4:3 DVDs to begin with. To go from a 4:3 DVD source to a 16:9 DVD, you have to upscale the vertical resolution of the picture area. Upscaling the master when authoring a DVD isn't normally done by professionals unless they absolutely have to.

The SE DVDs came from far superior masters (probably 4K scans) rather than 720x480 4:3 D1 tape, so they had way more resolution than they needed to properly make 16:9 DVDs.

So here's your first few.  Lucasfilm was sitting on some masters--a 4:3 Laserdisc master for the GOUT and a 16:9 DVD master for the SE.  For the release we're talking about, you say they shouldn't scale the existing 4:3 master (fallacy 1: strawman--nobody's suggested that they do this).  Of course, they could have created an entirely new master for the OOT. (misinformed 1: this happens all the time, especially for popular titles; misinformed 2: those were not 4k scans for chrissake! This is Lucasfilm, not Sony!)

Assigning the fault to a DVD because it doesn't work ideally on a TV it wasn't designed for, is absurd. It is not the DVD's fault, it is not the DVD player's fault, and it is not the TV's fault. The fault obviously lies with the person who is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, so to speak.

Fallacy 2: thinking that the person trying to fit a square peg into a round hole is someone other than the person releasing an anamorphic DVD in 2006.

Similar things happen when people connect old video game consoles to 16:9 digital TVs, and it is equally absurd to blame the video game console for the results being less than ideal.

Fallacy 3: false equivalence. A video game console released in 2006 that had troubles with HDTVs would and should be pilloried (this would be equivalent to the GOUT). Video game consoles released around the turn of the millennium or earlier would and should be given a pass (this is what you're talking about, and it's unlike the GOUT).

Yeah, I'm gonna retch now. Harmy was right, just let it go. Darwin will take care of this for us eventually.