jero32 said:
I was under the impression that the "legacy" cuts of blade runner were sourced from interpositives?
edit: Turns out I had a misconception about interpositives, I thought they were already color timed, but it seems that they're merely USED to do the color timing.
"After a film is shot, the original negatives—taken directly from the camera equipment—are edited into correct sequence and printed onto fresh stock as a cohesive film, creating an interpositive print used for color timing. From the interpositive, answer prints, which include the color-corrected imagery and a properly synced sound track, are made. Once approved by the studio, the final answer print is made into an internegative used for striking copies that will be delivered to theaters for viewing."
So ya even if they scanned an interpositive, they'd stil need to color correct it properly if you want the theatrical colors.edit2: Word of warning though, just because the laserdisc has a certain set of colors, does not mean those are correct either. Although in this case they'll most likely be more accurate than the blurays.
I thought it was a combination of ON and IP for fill in parts (Workprint not withstanding) but maybe you are right. I have to go look at my BDs to see if the scans differ outside of the obvious differences. Regardless, you are also right, both the ON and IP need to be color timed.
Concerning the laserdisc, you are also absolutely right jero32. I don't want to give an impression that it is an absolutely authority on colors. Just as I have been very specific to say that the Alien '95 LD is not the end authority for the colors for that film (but circumstantial evidence points to it being closer to a release print then the BD). That Blade Runner LD just has the golden hues/bright colors that I remember on every VHS copy I had and that I noticed missing immediately on the BD. When I add them to the BD it looks pretty neat.
thxita said:
It will be for laserdisc nostalgia.
Exactly, treat it not as the authority in colors but an alternative to the BDs.
kaosjm said:
BDgeek said:
WOW, those Blade Runner BD caps with LD colors are just amazing!
Imagine a fixed BD color timing with LD PCM audio! (Now I'm hooked for this to become a future project)
This sounds awesome but which cut of the film would be theatrically correct - the original theatrical cut with narration, the '92 cut, the definitive cut? The definitive cut has only been released on BD and I trust those colors because that is what was intended by Ridley Scott but if we're talking about absolute original colors then I'd imagine we are also talking about the original cut and what that looked like in 1982.
The 1982 laserdisc is available on spleen so that could help as a reference.
Again this was a test. I still have to finish Alien (Aliens) and I don't want to bite off more then can chew. Having said that I was thinking the International Cut (with the extra violence) regraded. Adding the International Cut Dolby Stereo/Surround PCM 2.0 that BusterD and NeonBible put together as track 1. For track 2 the same soundtrack but with filled in parts from the Director's Cut soundtrack BusterD did, eliminating the voice over narrative. The only problem is the voice over in the "happy ending" part.
Yeah the LD I was referencing is the '82 from the spleen. Its a mess but the colors are a keeper, so I took the colors and tweaked the BD as close as possible (the '82 is P&S also).
I need to get the video from the Criterion LD also as a comparison. If anyone can send it to me, I would appreciate it.
I've officially derailed my own thread but I just wanted to gauge interest in this as a possible next project. See if people thought it was worth doing.