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Regicidal_Maniac
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Bush and Nuclear Proliferation
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21-Oct-2004, 6:56 AM
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Originally posted by: Kingsama
As i have said before, i have no problem with upgrading technology, as long as there are no more bombs built. AKA replacing old technology. I am full on in favor of scrapping most of our nukes, it is redundant to have them, not to mention to pay for their upkeep. But i agree full nuclear disarmerment is a great idea, but not plausable. That would be like disarming the military and police. The quasi good will generally follow the rules, but the bad, never will...


I have to agree with Kingsama here.

They'd have to all be dismantled at once, which would require total cooperation (never gonna happen).

There's always going to be some two-bit tinpot despot with access to a dirty bomb and as much as it pains me to say it I don't see a way out of the nuke stockpile problem.

There's no way to unfuck the situation.

MORE nukes and ICBM in the sky is a retarded idea, seriously drooling monkeys couldn't have worse ideas.

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Originally posted by: Kingsama
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There would still be plenty of funding for Defense contractors even if new nukes werent built. There is a laudry list of new technologies being developed that have nothing to do with nuclear bombs...


Here I agree again. I am for progress but I'm not sure if we really need deathrays and phantomzone projectors and the like.

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Originally posted by: Kingsama
And no one bought the presidency, there were many studies done by independant news sources that backed the Electoral COllege, and the supreme court. One of which was done by CNN, which is by no means a concervative entity...


The Presidency, or the leadership of any country for that matter, is for sale to the highest bidder. It's all about advertising and the more you spend the more votes you'll buy, especially important is a vicelike control of the main media outlets.

Here is the full text version of the quote in my sig:

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Originally posted by: Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."


He who controls the media controls the lie.

Victory! FOX News calls 2004 presidential election for Bush

I seem to recall the pro-Bush FOX news calling an earlier election also.

In the 2000 election a full cousin of George W. Bush, John Prescott Ellis, was analysing data from the Voter News Service for Fox News and had several times contact by telephone with both George and Jeb Bush that night. It was his decision to call Florida for Bush, with Fox being the first network to do so.

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Originally posted by: Lethe
I wonder how it is voters willingly support this sort of program?



To answer this I will use the full version of my other sig.

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Originally posted by: Hermann Goering, Commander-in-Chief of the Luftwaffe, President of the Reichstag
"Of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."