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4K restoration on Star Wars — Page 43

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just when I thought this thread had died...

Seriously though the lack of any new information regarding the OOT disappoints me, although there have been more separate, semi-reliable rumors this summer 2014 than I can ever remember, even more so than all the buzz when Disney first bought LFL. I wonder what Bill Hunt on Digital Bits would think, he seems like someone with connections, and he wrote an optimistic column about it a few months ago but has remained silent on it lately, but still acknowledged that it's his most common question a few days ago in his article. Because of the recent, and bizarre, obsession with 20th Century Fox for some reason refusing to distribute the OOT a lot of the buzz was shut down surrounding the comicbook.com rumor, which is unfortunate. I feel like anyone with any real credibility seems to think a release of the OOT is likely, or at least they haven't brought up any real reason why it won't (or can't) happen.

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I think it can't be coincidence that just a couple months ago this mention of 4k Star Wars goes up on RMW's website and now we're hearing this talk of a 4k blu-ray format by the end of next year. I think everyone in the industry is realizing "4k" is fast becoming the new buzz word. Regardless of when exactly this RMW job was commissioned, whether it was before or after the Disney deal, it must've been motivated by the realization of 1080p no longer being good enough for the foreseeable future.

The biggest question is whether it's the OOT, the SE or both that got the 4k treatment.

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AntcuFaalb said:

AntcuFaalb said:

Fang Zei said:

We already heard Roger Christian say that his movie (forgot the name of it) might be included in said digital extras.

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Tyrphanax said:

I'M ON TO YOUR HINTS, FAALB!

lol, what hints?

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So again... isn't the title of this thread misleading?

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It isnt particularly misleading. It's official that RMW at one point claimed to be responsible for a 4K restoration of Star Wars. Obviously now they've backed down for whatever reason, but at the time this thread was made it was on their website

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The misleading part is "Official", which I suspect was an attempt to say "This is the Official thread for discussing this, because I, some normal user, said so, not one of those other threads haha!"

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True, but at the time this thread was posted it seemed official because of the RMW website, but now that's it's been removed, not so much. 

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I'd slap a question mark at the end of that "Official" before people start rioting.

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What are you guys talking about? Fox owns distribution rights, therefore Star Wars will never ever be released again for some reason! ;)

That sums up the comments section of any article that contains any mention of the OOT

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I never understood what the whole distribution rights issue was about. One thing nobody asked though. If Fox has the rights to ANH perpetually, does that mean it will never enter the public domain?

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Well, that's probably a movie that'll never enter public domain since there's so much money to be made off of it. I also don't understand the distribution rights issue. That Badass Digest article that claimed Fox outright owned the whole Original Trilogy said it was a fake rumor because Fox would be the one to release it, which makes no sense. When it was announced that the whole Saga was coming to blu ray in 2011 (or whenever) no one said, "George Lucas actually can't release those, Fox has the distribution rights," it's just nonsensical. I still am betting $100 on the fact that we'll get the OOT in some form (even if it's a GOUT repeat, which I doubt it will be) by the end of 2015

EDIT: I should add that I do understand that Fox has a role to play here. Either Disney buys the distribution rights, or they just let Fox distribute whatever Lucasfilm puts together. Or make a new agreement altogether, but by no means is this something that'll prevent Star Wars from ever being released again.

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Distribution rights are just that: the right to distribute. They don't "own" the films, they have no say on what to release and in what quality. As it stands, Fox is the only company who can ship the product on shelves, but they don't get a say in WHAT is released.

If we are to get a Star Wars blu ray in the next couple of years, Disney and Fox will have to make a deal. They'd have to figure out who gets how much a percent of each sale. It's not exactly rocket science. The lawyers will be busy but there's a lot of money to be made, and I'm sure they can come to some agreement.

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Yes, and apparently Disney has already worked out the rights to Indiana Jones.

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I recently watched the new youtube video from Zombie on Star Wars News and Views about the 4K restoration. He mentioned the resumes from RMW workers so I looked it up online and found a linked in profile where the lady lists that she returned to RMW to work on "frame by frame image restoration" on Star Wars in early 2013.

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Yeah, someone pasted her resume in one of the threads here. Believe me, every bit of information available out there that could've been discussed already has been. Ten times over :) We need new info.

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Sorry, I just checked the first page of the thread and her resume (from a different site) has already been posted here. The one I found is the same woman's linkedin page, but it says that she worked on Star Wars in early to mid 2013, which I believe is somewhat new because didn't we think that this Star Wars project was something from longer ago than that? This would mean that it is a Disney approved project, even if it did start under Lucas. This is a 43 page thread so I'm sure it's probably been mentioned before, sorry if I was repeating things.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Sorry, I just checked the first page of the thread and her resume (from a different site) has already been posted here. The one I found is the same woman's linkedin page, but it says that she worked on Star Wars in early to mid 2013, which I believe is somewhat new because didn't we think that this Star Wars project was something from longer ago than that? This would mean that it is a Disney approved project, even if it did start under Lucas.

I'm pretty sure there's a few pages of people discussing something along those lines here. When it happened, why (someone suggested a token of good will on the part of LucasArts pre-Disney buyout, I think, etc.), is this even a new restoration and so on.

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This is a 43 page thread so I'm sure it's probably been mentioned before, sorry if I was repeating things.

Basically, from what I can tell, half of this thread is all about reiterating the other half. So no worries ;)

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moviefreakedmind said:

I recently watched the new youtube video from Zombie on Star Wars News and Views about the 4K restoration. He mentioned the resumes from RMW workers so I looked it up online and found a linked in profile where the lady lists that she returned to RMW to work on "frame by frame image restoration" on Star Wars in early 2013.

 

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Yeah, someone pasted her resume in one of the threads here. Believe me, every bit of information available out there that could've been discussed already has been. Ten times over :) We need new info.

 

Just conveniently posting the link here to said new Youtube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwcR4x1c2pc&list=UUXbMeL5_F6HWln8_sWA0PGg

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"Restoration/ Dirt ArtistReliance MediaWorks Ltd.March 2013 - June 2013 (4 months)

Rehired during deadline crunch because of my experience with their proprietary software for frame by frame image restoration on movies like Disney’s The Little Mermaid and Star Wars."

Here's the linkedin post I'm assuming MFM is talking about. Its the same woman who was mentioned earlier in the second comment (although that link no longer contains information about work on Star Wars) in this thread. I don't feel good about posting links to a persons' profile or saying their name online so I just included the above quote. This is interesting because I believe we thought that this was a project completed or abandoned around 2012, so assuming that resume is accurate this does mean that the project has definitely been endorsed and continued by Disney. Maybe I'm grasping at straws but I'll take anything I can get.

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Ah, rehired is indeed new.

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Here's the linkedin post I'm assuming MFM is talking about. Its the same woman who was mentioned earlier in the second comment (although that link no longer contains information about work on Star Wars) in this thread. I don't feel good about posting links to a persons' profile or saying their name online so I just included the above quote.

I don't see why since that's pretty much the point of social media. Especially of something along the lines of linkedin, unless you don't want work for some reason.

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zombie84 said:

OKAY...

My interpretation:

2) Disney cares about the fans and Star Wars. They do. That's why they are doing the sequels right. They are making a point of hiring top talent that includes good writers (LAWRENCE KASDAN for god's sake--how old school SW can you get) and good directors who are themselves fans. They are onboard with Abrams' "practical effects" "doing it like the OT" approach. Everyone involved with the film--Hamill, Mayhew, even visitors like Kevin Smith--have gushed about how it's like making the OT all over again. Disney is smart, look at their treatment of Marvel.

Further, when Bob Igor was buying Lucasfilm he made it clear that the films were no longer George's and they needed to do with them what they felt best. Lucas obviously agreed, as he made the deal. That's why they are sort of making a point of saying "hey fans, I know the prequels and SE kind of split the fan base, we are not going to do that, we are going to win the critics back."

Disney like any other company only cares about money. That's all there is really. Yes, I'm a grumpy old cynic.  But, you cannot just push all the same buttons once again and somehow think you're gonna end up with movie magic. Oh well. At least they're trying... only about 15 years too late though...

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3) George Lucas doesn't care. He has no involvement. He walked away. He sold the films. They are no longer his. There is no "never release the OOT" contract, that is an unfounded conspiracy theory. He released them in 2006, technically, and soften by 2011, saying he would like to restore them but didn't want to spend the money. He COULD HAVE--but he didn't give a shit. I'm sure by then he knew he was going to retire and sell the films the next year--as if he made that decision lickety-split--so was just like..."meh...I don't really care...money and time...this SE is my last statement on SW."

He may not care any longer, but just let us say he's still as hellbent as ever concerning this... how many studios release major catalog titles against or without the director's consent? This particular director is also a (former) Hollywood giant, former owner of the company and also happens to be Disney's second largest single shareholder, good friend of Bob Igor and Kathleen Kennedy. It's a quite unique situation I know, but all I'm trying to say is, if George still really doesn't wan't those films and his other two directorial films out there, I think it's quite safe to say that they will respect his wishes.

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4) Which then brings us to....what the heck is this thing then? The lightsabers are weird. Not the 1997--I THINK? Has anyone verified this beyond a shadow of a doubt? Because what happens due to exposure variants is the the core and the glow look different from transfer to transfer, even when from the same source. Read most of this thread but maybe I missed something.

I mentioned back on page 3 that the compositing in that short video sample is without a doubt not the original compositing. I have since checked both IB-Tech and Kodak print scans and I think others have also reconfirmed. The lightsaber compositing in the Ben vs. Vader duel was left untouched in the '97SE release.

Also, you really need to update your page on the "'SW-restoration," additional info has surfaced over the years since you compiled that piece.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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Baronlando said:

It's mind boggling to think there are adults who are just not capable of looking at a forty year old movie in the context of its time, that's just embarrassing.

If there was a "post of the month," this would be it.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com