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If they want Doctor Who to be a villain they chose the right guy.

Capaldi is great at playing villains.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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The Doctor at times is a bit of an antihero or at least unconventional protagonist. He is only the villain (in his Valeyard persona or as the Dreamlord) when he is under an alias.

Even the War Doctor was heroic probably the most so.

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I'm currently watching the Pertwee serial 'The Time Monster', in which The Doctor convinces young Jo to handle this interestingly shaped device of his own design...

...which they use to sneak a look at The Master's TOMTIT. The classic show could be a very strange place indeed ;-)

Joking aside, Roger Delgado is bloomin' awesome in this serial.

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That had to be on purpose. I imagine slipping something past the censors was a way to cope with the grind of making a tv show. My classmates in college would stick suspicious sounding names into the credits of the boring public access cable shows we slaved on.

Star Trek snuck a couple things by as well.

Where were you in '77?

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Oh and don't forget this.  Just look at the grin on Frakes's face,you know that he knew what was going on and that was the best take they could get out of him.

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Okay, what the heck was under the covers if it wasn't a creature?

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They never said it wasn't a creature: that's what so brilliant about it.

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I've read several complaints that the aliens "The Silence" are somehow derivative of the "Gentlemen" from that awesome nontalking episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Makes me want to kick someone.

Did someone of note say this first, and others are copying? Or are there just that many people who see a monster in a suit and start twitching. 

  • Gentleman=Exaggerated rictus grins
  • Silence=no mouth
  • Gentlemen=Constantly moving in weird, mime like ways
  • Silence=Usually perfectly still
  • Gentleman=Suits, with pocket square evoke elegance.
  • Silence=Suits evoke MiB, faceless bureaucracy
  • Gentleman=Brothers to Nosfeatu
  • Silence=Basically a Gray Alien in a suit.

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“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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Well it took me a LONG time to see a shower in the picture :) It looks like a wheelchair guy is hunting a Dalek and a man and a one legged woman are watching it :)

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FanFiltration said:

 Yeah I didn't catch that until I saw the caption.  I saw that photo a couple of years ago without the caption and I figured it was a joke because I thought it was a Dalek until I saw this version:)

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-become-unsuitable-children-4304006

What do you think?

Personally I don't like censorship still I do prescreen the episodes before letting my little brother and sister watch them but I do that with most modern TV since now adays the amount of sex and violence you can show in an 8pm show rivals what was in R rated movies when I was a kid. I mean TV shows today can have graphic sex scenes and show people's heads being cut off or them becoming a puddle of goo. While I don't believe in censorship I do wish there were more shows that didn't resort to these tactics.

When i was a kid there were plenty of action adventure shows that either didn't kill people like MacGyver or cut away from the sex and the corps and just had them off screen,that doesn't seem to happen any more. I find it kind of sad because it seems like the choice is now between cartoons aimed at young children and what would get an R rating if it was a film back in the day,nothing in between.

I wish more modern shows would take the MASH approach and just let the actors' reaction to the bloody corps say it all instead of showing them. I miss old style action adventure and mystery shows that relied on good dialog and stories instead of how much violence and sex they could put on screen to keep viewers hooked.

While I don't think over all Doctor Who has reached the point other shows have and I still watch most episodes with my little brother and sister I will admit that there are a few episodes I don't watch with them and I can understand why some people will not let their kids watch it. I mean it does have violence,a kiss-o-gram,and cursing in it now and I would be lying if I said I didn't understand why some parents may not want their kids watching those things without them in the room or at all.

I don't want the show censored but I do think parents and others have a right to decide if they want their kids watching it and to say no. I still love the show but I can understand the problem. Does that make sense to anyone else?

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But children are supposed to find Doctor Who scary?!

Kids being so scared that they have to watch from "Behind the sofa" is virtually the moto of the show. There is a fan site called...

www.behindthesofa.org.uk

Plus anything in this series so far is about 1% as scary as some of the sh*t from the classic era.

(Although possibly Bonnie Langford's winny high-pitched voice was more scary than the actual monster)

Even The Doctor was scared ^

Oh and...

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Nothing is as terrifying as that red furry pink and white stripey screamy thing.

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I would think watching the evening news would be far more terrifying than anything on Who. ;)

Where were you in '77?

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The Doctor is...

1/3rd Londoner, 1/4th Scottish, 1/6th Liverpudlian and the other 3/12ths are South-Western, East-Midlands and North-Western. So there has never been a regeneration from the North-East, West-Midlands or Northern-Ireland, dammit I demand that the next Doctor should be a Mackem!

I don't know why but I thought that was important to work out LOL

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I'm watching the show chronologically (which means I'm at the middle of Season 13 of classic show) and I'd say that a HUGE number of episodes of the old series are/were not suitable for children.

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I was watching the Tom Baker era when I was around 11, and suffered no ill effects. What are people worrying about?

The real world gives me plenty of nightmares. My Whovian dreams are quite pleasant.

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The Deadly Assassin is still too frightening for adults.

You have a flayed faced freak, a horse wearing a gas mask, the Doctor strapped to a surgical cot and injected with with a giant syringe on a beach. you have a clown face appearing under the sand, you have eyes peeping from a mountain and the Doctor held under water for a whole week between cliff hanger endings.

People are shrunk to death, shot, blown up with grenades and cooked alive.

I was six when I watched that little beauty.

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The horse is less scary once you've seen World War One photos of the same thing.

However, when I saw this in a old documentary about nuclear weapons, it was freaky.

You'd think the Beeb would have sued Warner's over knicking that Matrix thingy. ;)

The number of concepts Who did years or even decades before anyone else is pretty amazing.

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Capaldi on Graham Norton tonight, 10.35 BBC1 (Plus somebody called Denzel Washington)

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As long as Norton stays off Doctor Who I'm happy.

Did anyone else think the blitzer looked a bit like those thankfully avoided 1990's reboot Daleks?

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Okay now that we have that sorted out maybe we can finally get a Doctor Who RPG.

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Well, I have watched up to the 7th episode of season 8.    Here is how I would describe the Capaldi Doctor(I'm calling him that because I am not sure whether to call him the 12th or 13th Doctor) if I were to add him to DrCrow's list: Chaotic A**.

Sorry but that is my honest opinion of him so far.   He is downright unlikeable is you ask me.  He is insensitive and rude.  I'd never thought I see the day when the doctor is guiltly of bigotry.   He is bigoted against anyone who was a soldier.   He would let that girl ride with him in the tardis, not because she was a bad person or anything, but because she was a soldier.   He can't conceive of Clara's boyfriend being math teach because he was a soldier and soldiers can't possibly be smart enough to be math teachers, they can only teach Phy-ed.    Look as the way he talks down to him!  Does this really sound like the Doctor to anyone?   Does this sound like the guy who was friends with Brigadier Sergeant Benton?  Yes, he hates some of the things the military would do and he hates war and he hate when people pick a violent solution when a peaceful one is possible.   But the Doctor I know of would not hate people merely because they soldiers.   That is bigotry pure and simple.  

Now lets discuss "Kill The Moom"   I am sorry but what the Doctor did absolutely stupid.   He could have stayed and discovered(if he didn't know already) that lettiing the moom hatch would not have harmed Earth.   If he had stayed he could have found a way to preserve the creature in the moon egg with harming the Earth.   But what does he do?  Unlike all the times when he stepped in and saved humanity from this disaster or that,  he leaves Clara and the others with an impossible  decision:  kill the innocent creature in moon egg or let it's hatching destroy the Earth.   What if Clara had made the wrong choice? What if she had let the woman kill the creature because the Doctor wasn't there to help.   Yeah, it turns out he knew all along that the creature would hatch and leave the Earth unharmed and inspire humanity to reach for the stars again.   But did he know all along that the egg was allowed to hatch because Clara would let it?   How did he know that him leaving wouldn't change history so that the egg wouldn't be allowed to hatch.   Yeah he knew the egg would be allowed to hatch, but he didn't know it was because Clara allowed it instead of him helping.  If he was so afraid of changing history because of interfering, why did he interfer and help Earth all the other times? Just seems inconsistent to me (btw this story has implications for the abortion thread).  

He just comes off as a jerk to me.  I also find his accent very difficult to understand.   Thank God captions are regular thing on tvs nowadays.  He had been a Doctor during the classic era when many tvs didn't have captions, I don't know what I would have done.  But I am sure it is easier for people in the UK to understand him.   That said, I hope his era as the Doctor is short.   Also I don't like how they advertised "here is the new Doctor's costume" and he only wears it for a tiny bit at the end of episode 1 and all of episode two and then it is changed.   A bit dishonest.