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Yes that's it; I had never seen any bonus features from the DVD so I just saw a 2014 video and assumed they had compiled old interviews with footage from the films and posted it online. False alarm

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Yeah, it's on the 2004 bonus DVD. In 2004, the crew making the docs made their own transfers of '97SE stuff, because the new master wasn't ready yet. The irony of how in the 2004 release a lot of stuff looked better on the bonus DVD and in the menus than in the movies themselves has been discussed at length somewhere before.

EDIT: LOL. From the documentary:

GL: As we went on, we wanted the lightsaber fights to become faster and more intense... :-D

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Does anyone know when the, "From Star Wars to Jedi," documentary was posted on the Star Wars youtube channel? It says it was "published" in 2014 but that never means when it was actually uploaded. Was this uploaded after Lucas left, or when he was still in charge? Either way it's interesting because it includes several in depth explanations of how OUT shots were made so I wouldn't expect GL to allow his staff to post it on youtube, but if it's been posted since he sold LFL then that means they're no longer going to pretend like Star Wars wasn't made until 1997, even if they don't release the originals.

EDIT: It's also interesting given that the documentary was not on the blu ray

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moviefreakedmind said:

Does anyone know when the, "From Star Wars to Jedi," documentary was posted on the Star Wars youtube channel? It says it was "published" in 2014 but that never means when it was actually uploaded. Was this uploaded after Lucas left, or when he was still in charge? Either way it's interesting because it includes several in depth explanations of how OUT shots were made so I wouldn't expect GL to allow his staff to post it on youtube, but if it's been posted since he sold LFL then that means they're no longer going to pretend like Star Wars wasn't made until 1997, even if they don't release the originals.

EDIT: It's also interesting given that the documentary was not on the blu ray

 It was posted in several parts after the sale.

But even in 2011 for the blu-ray, three classic documentaries were included which detailed the making of the originals, as well as the passionless, 25 minute snoozefest "Anatomy of a Dewback" which details the animation of said creatures for the 1997 Special Edition.

So I don't think George is opposed to explaining how the OUT was made, but he will always pretend that the movie that was made all those years ago is the same as the ones we have now, acting like all of the extensive model, camera, animation work from the originals is still intact.

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Oh OK, thanks. I've never actually bothered with anything on the blu ray so I wasn't sure. I remember the "Anatomy of a Dewback" video actually making me physically ill when I saw part of it. I think around the time of the blu ray George must've really softened on the whole, "the original versions don't exist to me anymore," stance. Before he sold it he just said, "the movies keep getting upgraded over time" or something, but I was sure he'd get around to releasing the OUT eventually, even if it was as late as the 40th anniversary.

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Especially since his later opinion was that the OT sucked because there weren't enough green lizards walking around

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To play devil's advocate, I always thought George must've been convinced that he was telling a story with all the vfx in the prequels. Similarly, he probably thought the "dated" vfx of the OOT were hampering the the story he wanted to tell.

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I would agree with you on the OOT thing if the effects he altered were actually involved in the story. Most of his additions didn't actually cover up dated effects but were new additions themselves.

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Well, if he was worried about dated effects then I think he would've updated the 90's CGI for the blu ray if that were the case. I honestly just think he was being stubborn by not releasing the OUT. I believe that the original Special Editions (and the "one last time" bullsh#t, even though he did release it again) were nothing but marketing gimmicks, and he used his whole true vision thing as a way to generate excitement about the SE's, then when everyone hated it he decided to shove it in everyones faces as revenge for not accepting them. All of the changes after 1997, and even a lot of the 97 changes, were so non-sensical that I honestly just think it turned into a big mind game by the time we hit the blu rays. That being said, I do think he was considering releasing the OUT. All because of that New York Times article where he was quoted as saying, "Unfortunately, the recent releases get priority over what we call the classic versions of things." 

He didn't say anything about vision, and not even anything about, "it's on VHS." He didn't even try to deny that the OUT could be restored, although it was pretty dishonest to pretend that it was going to be some billion dollar project. It all came across as him teasing that the SE's come first, but the OUT will come second. Maybe it was just his diplomatic way of saying they'll never be released, but since he's so blunt about things I don't think he would beat around the bush.

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I suppose, but honestly to me that just means that he doesn't care about it. He'll never do it because it's expensive, but now that he doesn't own it I don't think he cares at all. He has no way of blocking current LFL from releasing it even if he wanted to stop them, but as of now I think he just doesn't care at all.

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He pretty much says the same thing about special effects in the Peecher book as well but elaborates on it a bit further.

About how sometime in the future they will have computer sets and computer actors but they will never be commercial and will fail,lol.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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OKAY...

My interpretation:

1) NO WAY this was for the 3D release. Absolutely not. Did TPM get a 4K scan and a restoration for the 3D? NO!

The Blu-ray MASTER (not the BD compressed version itself) was the "for all time" version of the SE. Yeah, it's 1080p. So are the prequels, the native footage is all 1080p, possibly less because there was widescreen matting and I'm not sure they used anamorphic lenses. The DI was a 2K upres. So Lucas is perfectly happy with the "For all time" definitive version being basically an HD master. It's not ideal, but it works; the 35mm prints you see in theaters typically have less than 1080p resolution because of duplication degradation, and that's why if you've ever seen a Blu-ray projected in the theater, it looks absolutely fine.

The 2004 and 2011 changes were never on film. You'd have to completely rebuild them, and redo all the colour timing as well. That's totally unrealistic when Lucas seems perfectly happy with a pro master of the "for all time" version of his films being at 1080p/2K. It would be very, very, very expensive to do a full-out 4K re-build (assuming they still have the digital elements, which I predict they do, but then who knows).

Finally, the 3D version of ANH was intended for...2015? I think. This restoration looks like it was a completed project, sometime in or around 2012. But Lucas said that they had been converting the film to 3D since 2010 or so, when they were making the BD scans. They did test footage, but Lucas said sometime in 2010 or so that a percentage of the film had already been converted and that they were working on it ahead of time because unlike the prequels they didn't have the digital elements to do truer depth layers. Maybe they decided to start over, but even still, Lucas seemed to consider the 2011 master the ultimate master. So you can't be restoring the film after you are already in the conversion process.

2) Disney cares about the fans and Star Wars. They do. That's why they are doing the sequels right. They are making a point of hiring top talent that includes good writers (LAWRENCE KASDAN for god's sake--how old school SW can you get) and good directors who are themselves fans. They are onboard with Abrams' "practical effects" "doing it like the OT" approach. Everyone involved with the film--Hamill, Mayhew, even visitors like Kevin Smith--have gushed about how it's like making the OT all over again. Disney is smart, look at their treatment of Marvel.

Further, when Bob Igor was buying Lucasfilm he made it clear that the films were no longer George's and they needed to do with them what they felt best. Lucas obviously agreed, as he made the deal. That's why they are sort of making a point of saying "hey fans, I know the prequels and SE kind of split the fan base, we are not going to do that, we are going to win the critics back."

3) George Lucas doesn't care. He has no involvement. He walked away. He sold the films. They are no longer his. There is no "never release the OOT" contract, that is an unfounded conspiracy theory. He released them in 2006, technically, and soften by 2011, saying he would like to restore them but didn't want to spend the money. He COULD HAVE--but he didn't give a shit. I'm sure by then he knew he was going to retire and sell the films the next year--as if he made that decision lickety-split--so was just like..."meh...I don't really care...money and time...this SE is my last statement on SW."

4) Which then brings us to....what the heck is this thing then? The lightsabers are weird. Not the 1997--I THINK? Has anyone verified this beyond a shadow of a doubt? Because what happens due to exposure variants is the the core and the glow look different from transfer to transfer, even when from the same source. Read most of this thread but maybe I missed something.

Well, I have some thoughts.

Not an SE hybrid. Never. They would never blatantly disrespect George Lucas by having a corporation deliberately change the very vocally "my artistic statement" George Lucas' films without him, while still delivering the dreaded SE (of a sort). That simply isn't done any more. The last time it happened was the 1980s, and they held a Congressional Senate pannel over it. That really doesn't happen anymore, especially not with Disney. This is just unrealistic. And it's not the remnant of a 4K SE build because that's unnecessary, doesn't make sense, and defies the history of 21st century Lucasfilm masters, especially with the expense involved. Which also means it's probably not for the aborted 3D.

So what is this then?

I can tell you guys something. I know some people in Lucasfilm and some people who worked at The Ranch (or is it the Presidio now? whatever). And every piece of film ever shot for all of the films has been scanned and digitized now. A guy I know walked into one of their editing bays and started talking to this staff editor--he had seen every second of every bit of film for all the films, all the takes, everything, because they have been slowly digitizing this stuff over the last few years. That's why we have all these outtakes on the BDs and stuff.

So 3 things:

1) Lucasfilm has been systematically doing this for years and finally got around to doing a proper restoration of Star Wars, but wanted to hold it for later--if the 2010 start date is real. Can someone clarify this for me? Maybe Lucas felt that--since even by 2010 I'm sure he knew he'd be retiring in the next couple years--they could start getting around to finally doing a proper 4K restoration of the original negative (even if he still felt like not releasing the OOT--which I think he had genuinely softened on but wanted to just BS us with reason for the next 18 months until he retired with his billions of dollars and handed the issue to someone else.)

2) It's a 2012 project, and as soon as that deal happened, in the flurry of meetings that must have consumed the first 2 months, the issue of "how do we get the original versions out there?" came up. Disney would want to do it. It wins back fans, builds hype for Episode VII (the sequel to the OT) and makes them millions of dollars. And so before the year was over they got back in contact with the successor to their old go-to Lowry, and made it happen. The deal was announced in October, but it was obviously in the works a few months prior, so if in November RMW is scanning the negs, it could be complete by Christmas, if they allotted the right amount of staff--and this is a pretty darn big project. What's bigger than Star Wars? Virtually nothing. This was a #1 priority project.

That still does leave the question of the lightsabers. It's not the negative, which is the 1997 SE--I THINK? Hmm. It's not the 2011 BD (of course, it's not on film in the first place), and no way were they doing a 2011 BD 4K rebuild, which also takes down the 3D releases with both of these points. Very perplexing.

3) It's a demo reel. They are showing these images to show off how awesome their stuff looks. Did they just add a bit of glamour glow to the O-neg sabers, which do look crude? Maaaybe. Is this actually NOT the 1997 SE shot? I mean, we only really have that release on Laserdisc right? Was that particular shot for sure not a recomp in 1997, because they DID do lightsaber recomps/cleanup (Luke on the Falcon), and even if you were to do a modern restoration, would it really not look like that? It does look like a modern "feathering" effect, but the rest of the footage (and even that lightsaber footage, sans the sabers) does not AT ALL look like the SE, it's very OOT-ish, very "actual vintage print of the OOT", and I'm wondering if maybe they just took a bit of creative license for the "look how great our work is" reel featuring a release that hasn't even come out yet and therefore no final product to compare it to.

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The general consensus here is that the sabers look very '04. The 97 SE sabers were much wider at the core, but ultimately we don't know anything beyond our own speculation, but the sabers do line up well with the 04 sabers.

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zombie84 said:

The Blu-ray MASTER (not the BD compressed version itself) was the "for all time" version of the SE.

 I don't think so. I think that these were actually going to be the masters for the first Blu Ray release, but the demand was great enough that they just said screw it and reused the 2004, since it is 1080p. I think they actually intended to have a proper (SE) HD release of the films on Blu Ray with proper color correction (I think the color correction for the 2004 versions was an honest mistake as a result of a rushed project). I think they would have then added the additions from the 2004 masters and whatever else George felt like. I do think that it is possible that these masters were going to be used for the 3D release as well, since it would have taken so long for the films to be released theatrically, giving them plenty of time for the project. I think that they probably didn't bother with doing a full 4K version of PM so that it would look more like AOTC and ROTS, creating a more consistent look for the PT (sort of like how over DNR'd the Blu Rays were).

Also, regarding the 97 SE's, what is most likely going to happen is we will never have a complete release. What is more likely to happen is we will get a set with the theatricals and 2011 versions, with the 97 footage that is not in one or the other included as deleted/alternate scenes. I seriously doubt we will ever get more than that for the 97 versions.

So all this being said, what they are showing off is probably the 97's will all the automated clean up and restoration done on them. As far as the lightsabers go, I don't think that comparing them to the GOUT will really get us anywhere. The 2004/2011 versions could be what they looked like on the negative. We just don't know. I have doubts that these are the theatrical versions, however, but just because I don't know if an IP scan would look that good (which would be the most likely source for the OUT). I could be wrong, though, when it comes to IP quality. 

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The demo reel was heavily compressed 720p - even a cleaned up scan of an exhibition print could easily look that good in compressed 720p, so the quality tells us nothing about the source - now I've compared the sabres there with a scan of an I.B. Print and the glows are definitely not the originals, which were much more diffused but the cores actually look very close - both the '97SE and more so the GOUT have the cores blown out and thus looking too fat, so the thickness of the cores in the RMW reel is closer to the original than the GOUT.

Now, the colors in the RMW reel are closer to the way the scene looks in the '97SE broadcasts than on the I.B. print but they look far far better than the 2004 version.

I honestly don't know what to make of this either - Zombie makes some good points about it not being for the 3D release, but I still wouldn't count it out as a possibility - maybe they did do some tests with the 2004 footage and decided, that a remaster was needed for a 3D conversion, because the murky dark 2004 master is completely unfit for a 3D release and as we've learned, the colors and shadow detail can only be salvaged up to a point, so they may have decided that they needed a new master for 3D and today, when you're professionally remastering a high profile film like this from film elements, it would be border-line insane to go any lower than 4K.

Now, they didn't give TPM a 4K remaster but they still did remaster TPM for the 3D release but there's so much 2K CGI in the movie, that they decided to go for the original digital 2K masters instead of scanning film, because the 2K masters would likely have been the source of any complete copy of the movie on film anyway, so by scanning any complete copy of the film at 4K they would basically just be re-digitizing those same 2K files with an added layer of dupe grain and dirt and scratches, only to end up with something that is ultimately still only a 2K to 4K upscale. If they wanted it to look any better, they'd have to re-scan the raw negatives and completely re-do all the VFX, so the film-out masters were the best possible source they had for the completed film. The fact that they then decided to destroy the remaster with DVNR is sad but it also may have something to do with the 3D release - grain just isn't great for 3D.

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One of those RMW employees' resumé's said they were working on this as early as 2010. I'm not gonna go back into this massive thread and find it, but the wording was definitely that they'd "completed" a 4k restoration on the trilogy by then (didn't say which version, though). This means they would've started work on it even earlier. If those dates were accurate, the question remains as to why this newer transfer wasn't used for the 2011 blu-ray. Maybe George really didn't want to spend a dime on making everything perfect and "final" for the 3D conversions until he absolutely had to, so the 2004 masters were recycled since they're at least technically 1080p and those 2011 changes were done as cheaply as possible. As Zombie said, the 3D re-release of ANH was still years away at that point.

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I just don't think they'd restore the OUT from the OCN, and honestly I'm not sure that I want them to. There's a lot that could go wrong in that situation. So many things were cut out or replaced in the "O"CN when they made the Special Editions that they could easily accidentally leave in a minor change from 1997. It'd be a huge and tedius project reassembling all of the deleted frames (which are all probably at different levels of deterioration) and putting them back into the movies at the right place. 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if a 4K scan wasn't going to be used for a 4K release, instead being released in 1080p, wouldn't it not really matter what resolution the CGI is in? Wouldn't it look fine when scaled back down to 1080p?

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OKAY...

My interpretation:

1) NO WAY this was for the 3D release. Absolutely not. Did TPM get a 4K scan and a restoration for the 3D? NO!

The Blu-ray MASTER (not the BD compressed version itself) was the "for all time" version of the SE. Yeah, it's 1080p. So are the prequels, the native footage is all 1080p, possibly less because there was widescreen matting and I'm not sure they used anamorphic lenses. The DI was a 2K upres. So Lucas is perfectly happy with the "For all time" definitive version being basically an HD master. It's not ideal, but it works; the 35mm prints you see in theaters typically have less than 1080p resolution because of duplication degradation, and that's why if you've ever seen a Blu-ray projected in the theater, it looks absolutely fine.

The 2004 and 2011 changes were never on film. You'd have to completely rebuild them, and redo all the colour timing as well. That's totally unrealistic when Lucas seems perfectly happy with a pro master of the "for all time" version of his films being at 1080p/2K. It would be very, very, very expensive to do a full-out 4K re-build (assuming they still have the digital elements, which I predict they do, but then who knows).

Finally, the 3D version of ANH was intended for...2015? I think. This restoration looks like it was a completed project, sometime in or around 2012. But Lucas said that they had been converting the film to 3D since 2010 or so, when they were making the BD scans. They did test footage, but Lucas said sometime in 2010 or so that a percentage of the film had already been converted and that they were working on it ahead of time because unlike the prequels they didn't have the digital elements to do truer depth layers. Maybe they decided to start over, but even still, Lucas seemed to consider the 2011 master the ultimate master. So you can't be restoring the film after you are already in the conversion process.

2) Disney cares about the fans and Star Wars. They do. That's why they are doing the sequels right. They are making a point of hiring top talent that includes good writers (LAWRENCE KASDAN for god's sake--how old school SW can you get) and good directors who are themselves fans. They are onboard with Abrams' "practical effects" "doing it like the OT" approach. Everyone involved with the film--Hamill, Mayhew, even visitors like Kevin Smith--have gushed about how it's like making the OT all over again. Disney is smart, look at their treatment of Marvel.

Further, when Bob Igor was buying Lucasfilm he made it clear that the films were no longer George's and they needed to do with them what they felt best. Lucas obviously agreed, as he made the deal. That's why they are sort of making a point of saying "hey fans, I know the prequels and SE kind of split the fan base, we are not going to do that, we are going to win the critics back."

3) George Lucas doesn't care. He has no involvement. He walked away. He sold the films. They are no longer his. There is no "never release the OOT" contract, that is an unfounded conspiracy theory. He released them in 2006, technically, and soften by 2011, saying he would like to restore them but didn't want to spend the money. He COULD HAVE--but he didn't give a shit. I'm sure by then he knew he was going to retire and sell the films the next year--as if he made that decision lickety-split--so was just like..."meh...I don't really care...money and time...this SE is my last statement on SW."

4) Which then brings us to....what the heck is this thing then? The lightsabers are weird. Not the 1997--I THINK? Has anyone verified this beyond a shadow of a doubt? Because what happens due to exposure variants is the the core and the glow look different from transfer to transfer, even when from the same source. Read most of this thread but maybe I missed something.

Well, I have some thoughts.

Not an SE hybrid. Never. They would never blatantly disrespect George Lucas by having a corporation deliberately change the very vocally "my artistic statement" George Lucas' films without him, while still delivering the dreaded SE (of a sort). That simply isn't done any more. The last time it happened was the 1980s, and they held a Congressional Senate pannel over it. That really doesn't happen anymore, especially not with Disney. This is just unrealistic. And it's not the remnant of a 4K SE build because that's unnecessary, doesn't make sense, and defies the history of 21st century Lucasfilm masters, especially with the expense involved. Which also means it's probably not for the aborted 3D.

So what is this then?

I can tell you guys something. I know some people in Lucasfilm and some people who worked at The Ranch (or is it the Presidio now? whatever). And every piece of film ever shot for all of the films has been scanned and digitized now. A guy I know walked into one of their editing bays and started talking to this staff editor--he had seen every second of every bit of film for all the films, all the takes, everything, because they have been slowly digitizing this stuff over the last few years. That's why we have all these outtakes on the BDs and stuff.

So 3 things:

1) Lucasfilm has been systematically doing this for years and finally got around to doing a proper restoration of Star Wars, but wanted to hold it for later--if the 2010 start date is real. Can someone clarify this for me? Maybe Lucas felt that--since even by 2010 I'm sure he knew he'd be retiring in the next couple years--they could start getting around to finally doing a proper 4K restoration of the original negative (even if he still felt like not releasing the OOT--which I think he had genuinely softened on but wanted to just BS us with reason for the next 18 months until he retired with his billions of dollars and handed the issue to someone else.)

2) It's a 2012 project, and as soon as that deal happened, in the flurry of meetings that must have consumed the first 2 months, the issue of "how do we get the original versions out there?" came up. Disney would want to do it. It wins back fans, builds hype for Episode VII (the sequel to the OT) and makes them millions of dollars. And so before the year was over they got back in contact with the successor to their old go-to Lowry, and made it happen. The deal was announced in October, but it was obviously in the works a few months prior, so if in November RMW is scanning the negs, it could be complete by Christmas, if they allotted the right amount of staff--and this is a pretty darn big project. What's bigger than Star Wars? Virtually nothing. This was a #1 priority project.

That still does leave the question of the lightsabers. It's not the negative, which is the 1997 SE--I THINK? Hmm. It's not the 2011 BD (of course, it's not on film in the first place), and no way were they doing a 2011 BD 4K rebuild, which also takes down the 3D releases with both of these points. Very perplexing.

3) It's a demo reel. They are showing these images to show off how awesome their stuff looks. Did they just add a bit of glamour glow to the O-neg sabers, which do look crude? Maaaybe. Is this actually NOT the 1997 SE shot? I mean, we only really have that release on Laserdisc right? Was that particular shot for sure not a recomp in 1997, because they DID do lightsaber recomps/cleanup (Luke on the Falcon), and even if you were to do a modern restoration, would it really not look like that? It does look like a modern "feathering" effect, but the rest of the footage (and even that lightsaber footage, sans the sabers) does not AT ALL look like the SE, it's very OOT-ish, very "actual vintage print of the OOT", and I'm wondering if maybe they just took a bit of creative license for the "look how great our work is" reel featuring a release that hasn't even come out yet and therefore no final product to compare it to.

 Hmmm...before you go around posting your interpretation, could we get some references as to your qualifications for this kind of stuff?

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if a 4K scan wasn't going to be used for a 4K release, instead being released in 1080p, wouldn't it not really matter what resolution the CGI is in? Wouldn't it look fine when scaled back down to 1080p?

Not only that, but pretty much all movies finished as a 4k DI only have their digital vfx rendered at 2k. That's why movies with a lot of vfx shots are only finished at 2k.

Digital effects shots are only rendered at higher resolutions for when they actually stand to gain from it. The literal handful of hollywood movies shot partially in native Imax had the effects for those scenes rendered at 5.7k or higher. I know that some of ILM's beauty shots of Pandora in Avatar were rendered at 3k (odd res, I know) so that they would really shine in the 70mm Imax blow-up.

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I clicked on the twitter for Makingstarwars (the site that reported that the RMW work had been rejected) and they got a reply from some guy claiming the work was merely being revised. Dunno what that means or how legit the guy is. (Hey zombie, how's it going dude)

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I can tell you guys something. I know some people in Lucasfilm and some people who worked at The Ranch (or is it the Presidio now? whatever). And every piece of film ever shot for all of the films has been scanned and digitized now. A guy I know walked into one of their editing bays and started talking to this staff editor--he had seen every second of every bit of film for all the films, all the takes, everything, because they have been slowly digitizing this stuff over the last few years. That's why we have all these outtakes on the BDs and stuff.

 If that's the case then that would mean that all unaltered scenes for the OT (and PT for that matter, but who really cares about those) are all on a computer hard-drive at Skywalker Ranch, right? Did the man you talked to know if this included the OOT or, just for curiosity's sake, the Holiday Special? I guess "everything" would include the OOT. I've always been skeptical that Lucas would just throw things that he didn't like (holiday special/OUT) in the dumpster, but I didn't know that things were being digitally preserved as well, even if they don't actually clean it up at all. If this is the case for the OUT then maybe that's what Lucas meant when he said that the current releases get "priority" over the classic versions of things. Maybe he meant that the SE's come first, and then when the time comes the classics will be released. I don't know, I might be putting more thought into this than George Lucas put into all of his SE changes combined

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zombie84 said:

OKAY...

My interpretation:

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 Hmmm...before you go around posting your interpretation, could we get some references as to your qualifications for this kind of stuff?

He probably picked someone's brain.

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Did the man you talked to know if this included the OOT or, just for curiosity's sake, the Holiday Special? I guess "everything" would include the OOT. I've always been skeptical that Lucas would just throw things that he didn't like (holiday special/OUT) in the dumpster, but I didn't know that things were being digitally preserved as well, even if they don't actually clean it up at all. If this is the case for the OUT then maybe that's what Lucas meant when he said that the current releases get "priority" over the classic versions of things. Maybe he meant that the SE's come first, and then when the time comes the classics will be released. I don't know, I might be putting more thought into this than George Lucas put into all of his SE changes combined

It's pure speculation on my part, but considering the scope of such a project it's probably easier to digitize everything they have rather than pick and choose. Also, I think even Lucas realized just how dumb destroying (or not saving/preserving/digitizing) your assets is, regardless of whether you like them or not.

Expect the SWHS getting an official release now that Disney's in charge, is what I'm saying.

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We already heard Roger Christian say that his movie (forgot the name of it) might be included in said digital extras.

This reminds me: Black Angel (1980) is already on iTunes. Has anyone here deDRM'd it?

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