I'm honestly confused.
In February (?) 220 lb American Football Hero Ray Rice was suspended for two games for knocking his fiance out.
Yesterday, he was fired and indefinitely suspended for having knocked his fiance out back in February.
I'm honestly confused. Has something changed? None of the stories are clear. Can any sports-types here help me?
The video inside the elevator went public. Previous video only showed the aftermath outside the elevator.
Gotcha.
So KNOWING he knocked his wife the fuck out is OK. SEEING it is unacceptable.
I wish I was rich.
Yeah I don't get it either.
We already knew he did it so shouldn't he have been fired even if their wasn't a video. I think it goes to show that we mostly don't care what people do it's what they are seen doing that bothers most of us.
The NFL was fine with it as long as they didn't have to see it now that they saw it they are upset.
That is just stupid if you ask me.
DrCrowTStarwars said:
The NFL was fine with it as long as they didn't have to see it now that they saw it they are upset.
The NFL was fine with it as long as the public didn't see it. Now that the public has seen it, thus increasing public outcry, they fired him. Now, the public should have had a stronger response the first time, but it's a lot easier to get upset about graphic images than it is for just the idea of violence w/ aftermath photos. He should've been fired the first time, but at least they caught up with themselves?
Although, should we fire people for this? I'd like to know if there's a history of abuse here, or if this is the first time. If it's the first time, he seeks help and never does this again, that sounds like behavior we ought to promote (you know, other than the behavior of never doing this).
The NFL royally screwed this up. First they only suspend him for two games. They took alot of flack for not doing more. They end up changing the rules, requiring a six game suspension for a first time offense of kind Rice did, and a permanent band for any 2nd offense of same. Now that the video came out, they susspend him indefinitely and he gets kicked off the Ravens. I realize when they first punished him, the did not have the video from the elevator. But they did have a video of him dragging his wife out of the elevator, just what did the league think happened in there? I also find it hard to believe that the league with all of its power and influence couldn't get a copy of the video in the elevator yet TMZ could. Also according to TMZ, the league didn't even ask the casino for a copy, they didn't even ask! Now the league says it did ask the police for a copy, but still you couldn't make more of an effort to get a copy of the video? I find this difficult to believe. Many think think the league did in fact see elevator video before the first punishment and are now trying to cover their a**es. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell really screwed this up. He is in a lot of hot water and deservedly so.
The same guy who allegedly destroyed the 26 patriots cheating tapes of spygate aka videogate, not that is equated with aggravated assault.
Same guy who allegedly pretended the concussion problem was not so bad and the NFL assumed pretty much zero liability.
I understand his job is to keep the NFL going as a viable money making enterprise just like any ceo.
Goodell i mean.
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
Yes, this isn't the first time he's screwed up. Perhaps those within the NFL with the power to do so, should make sure it is the last time.
Just read that his wife is saying the media is responsible for ruining their life.
I just don't even.
I guess the media somehow forced Rice to belt her.
TheBoost said:
Just read that his wife is saying the media is responsible for ruining their life.
I just don't even.
People in abusive situations often want things to stay that way. Or at least they say they do. It's complicated.
She also probably doesn't want to get beat again.
This is interesting.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/ap-report--police-sent-nfl-the-ray-rice-tape-in-april-211230052.html
Warbler said:
This is interesting.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/ap-report--police-sent-nfl-the-ray-rice-tape-in-april-211230052.html
Its fair to say everything the NFL says is a filthy lie.
I wouldn't say everything the NFL says is a lie, but it certainly seems like they have been lying through their teeth about the Rice situation.
Warbler said:
permanent band
That was the name of my first band. We broke up the next day.
Don’t do drugs, unless you’re with me.
Neglify said:
Warbler said:
permanent band
That was the name of my first band. We broke up the next day.
/thread
/forum
/internet
Remember the XFL?
The WWE has instituted rules to limit concussions and fires people immediately for domestic violence.
The XFL don't look so bad now.
TheBoost said:
I'm honestly confused.
In February (?) 220 lb American Football Hero Ray Rice was suspended for two games for knocking his fiance out.
Yesterday, he was fired and indefinitely suspended for having knocked his fiance out back in February.
I'm honestly confused. Has something changed? None of the stories are clear. Can any sports-types here help me?
Hold on. You say he punched a woman and also refer to him as a hero?
He should have been dropped lie a rock immediately. His employer is only trying to cover their own ass now that it's public knowledge.
They should be punishing themselves for not having to balls to act when it first happened!
I heard that EA are pulling his likeness from the latest NFL videogame - which I think is already on sale.
Clearly TheBoost is crucifying him with religious zealotry for no other reason than the fact that Ray Rice is black. If he were a white guy, Boost wouldn't be making such an issue out of this.
darth_ender said:
Clearly TheBoost is crucifying him with religious zealotry for no other reason than the fact that Ray Rice is black. If he were a white guy, Boost wouldn't be making such an issue out of this.
Sarcasm aside, how is this even relevant?
Johnny Ringo said:
TheBoost said:
I'm honestly confused.
In February (?) 220 lb American Football Hero Ray Rice was suspended for two games for knocking his fiance out.
Yesterday, he was fired and indefinitely suspended for having knocked his fiance out back in February.
I'm honestly confused. Has something changed? None of the stories are clear. Can any sports-types here help me?
Hold on. You say he punched a woman and also refer to him as a hero?
Kinda poking fun that in America we very often call people who are good at moving balls around a field quickly 'heroes.'
I wish the NFL would just tell the truth. Put the blame where it belongs.
"We in the NFL don't give a shit that Rice knocked his wife the fuck out. Doesn't bother us at all. We run an entertainment company where people pay to watch men play ball well, and Rice played ball very well. We made the decision that the desire of the majority of ball-enthusiasts to see Rice play ball well would result in more money than having to deal with people being mad at him for punching his fiance.
Obviously, now that the video is out, you ball-enthusiasts are more sad over the punching than you are happy to see Rice continue to run very quickly with a ball. His services are no longer advantageous to our ball-moving-money-profit margin. We are sure you ball-enthusiasts understand."
I used to go to a gay pool hall called "Ball Enthusiasts."
darth_ender said:
Clearly TheBoost is crucifying him with religious zealotry for no other reason than the fact that Ray Rice is black. If he were a white guy, Boost wouldn't be making such an issue out of this.
Just giving Boost a hard time, since everything is racist to him :)