4K restoration on Star Wars — Page 41

I'm assuming they just didn't care, and given how altered the colors were and how disorganized working for Lucas supposedly was, I believe that it's very possible that some people may not have even been sure what was and wasn't meant to look a certain way.

I'm not sure about the errors. They very well could've been creative choices because as we've seen with the SE's, George's creative decision-making process is flawed to say the least. As for them being fixed in the blu ray, Lucas has been known to make changes to the movies, and then go back in and change the changes either back to the way they were, or alter them further. 

I'm not trying to defend the color job on the DVD's just because I know an acquaintance who worked on them. I think the deal was that he worked in a horribly frustrating environment with a man who was completely passionless, but still obnoxiously stubborn, about everything related to the movie he was selling, but I think it had more to do with Lucas' bad ideas than anything else. It's been so long since this conversation, but I think he said something along the lines of, "Lucas got what he wanted," regarding the colors, and maybe that's just a big cop out, but knowing how ridiculous everything related to Star Wars has been since 1997 I'm completely willing to believe it. 

I have a friend that is an audio engineer at Skywalker Sound.  One time I asked him about his thoughts on the OUT vs SE, etc.  His response was basically that he didn't understand why I or anyone else would care.

Well, I'd imagine most of the people who gave a damn left long ago, just to avoid the daily feeling that their employer is actively working to destroy film history.  Those who remained were either able to compartmentalize their feelings about it, or didn't really think of what they were doing as destructive to culture.  Sounds like moviefreakedmind's friend is likely the former, and Puggo's friend is the latter.

SilverWook said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I have a friend that is an audio engineer at Skywalker Sound.  One time I asked him about his thoughts on the OUT vs SE, etc.  His response was basically that he didn't understand why I or anyone else would care.

 Is he even a fan? I imagine someone who doesn't give a rat's ass about Gone With The Wind could care less if the Cinemascope version was the only version available either.

On the contrary, there are a number of classic films that I am not a fan of, but it would bother me deeply if they weren't preserved.  I think that it's more about many people not seeing any importance in films other than just for their entertainment value.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

SilverWook said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

I have a friend that is an audio engineer at Skywalker Sound.  One time I asked him about his thoughts on the OUT vs SE, etc.  His response was basically that he didn't understand why I or anyone else would care.

 Is he even a fan? I imagine someone who doesn't give a rat's ass about Gone With The Wind could care less if the Cinemascope version was the only version available either.

On the contrary, there are a number of classic films that I am not a fan of, but it would bother me deeply if they weren't preserved.  I think that it's more about many people not seeing any importance in films other than just for their entertainment value.

 For some, the art of preservation is sometimes more important or entertaining than being a fan of the medium itself. Speaking as someone who restores arcade cabinets, I'm sure the concept is the same.  :P

moviefreakedmind said:

I actually know someone who worked on the Star Wars Trilogy in 2004

Vidiot from the stevehoffman.tv forum?

Considering the thread's title... so how "official" is it?

AntcuFaalb said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I actually know someone who worked on the Star Wars Trilogy in 2004

Vidiot from the stevehoffman.tv forum?

 Yes, I believe so.

And, Imperialscum: It's only official that RMW had it on their website

Look at what a self described fan did with the audio mix.

I mean of course Matthew Wood.  Even if done with the best of intentions it was garbage.

I can sometimes forgive things if done with good intentions. For example, imagine all the awesome fan restorations like the Despecialized Editions or Dark Jedi didn't exist, and the only way to watch the OUT was the GOUT or a VHS tape/laserdisc, so I decide to make my own Despecialized Edition. I wouldn't know what I was doing so it would be a big disaster, but the intentions are still good I guess. I don't know, I'm usually very forgiving with things; I've always said that I have no problem with George making all these changes, but all I ask is that he continues to sell the original versions up to modern standards. 

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

On the contrary, there are a number of classic films that I am not a fan of, but it would bother me deeply if they weren't preserved.  I think that it's more about many people not seeing any importance in films other than just for their entertainment value.

 Agreed.  I really don't care much for "The Alamo" but it bothers me that MGM has dragged their heels on it for so long, making this film almost impossible to restore properly. 

Well, Star Wars was sold on all the old technology when it was still "cutting edge". If I remember right, Star Wars was on tape pretty early, as well as beta, and then laserdisc as well. It wasn't until George got weird that Star Wars got so horribly delayed with new formats, like not being released on DVD until F'ing 2004! Same with not being on blu ray until what, late 2011? Now that competent business people are running Star Wars I see no reason why Star Wars wouldn't be one of the first titles on a new home video format.

Jason Ward does not seem to understand it has long been common practice to scan something at 4K or higher and release it as a standard blu ray.

If these were ever done there is nothing to say they were done for an ultra HD audience seeing as most folks have standard 1080P televisions.

Sets and players would be priced out of range of the regular consumer for years to come.  Not to mention the worldwide great recession has not disappeared since 2008.

I don't know. If the 90's crap is stuck at 1080p then maybe that's why they call it a "conversion".

Hey, I just noticed something fascinating. On the Star Wars youtube channel, there is a video about the history of lightsabers, and it was made in 2014. All of the clips of the New Hope duel are the original lightsabers, and I don't think one clip is shown of the 04 lightsabers. This is fascinating because it shows that Disney-owned Lucasfilm is not going to pretend that the originals don't exist. In most special features when Lucas was in charge they'd talk about the cantina and show footage of all of the dumb CGI aliens as if they were always there, but now they acknowledge that previous versions exist. 

EDIT: Sorry, there is a clip of the shitty new Wampa scene, but still, the lightsabers were all the pre-2004 sabers for the Star Wars duel

Link?

EDIT:
Do you mean this documentary made for the 2004 Bonus DVD?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIefj6dOhnM&list=UUZGYJFUizSax-yElQaFDp5Q

Sorry, here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIefj6dOhnM&list=UUZGYJFUizSax-yElQaFDp5Q

Also, the more I think about it I'm assuming it was made much earlier than the video was posted (which was in 2014) since the footage from Ep. III wasn't finished, so it unfortunately could've been before the DVD release...