All Things Star Trek — Page 53

SilverWook said:

If you're going to remake TWOK, admit it up front. Abrams and company played coy with the true identity of "John Harrison" online for months. I saw the 2009 film three times in a theater, (twice in IMAX) I was one and done with TWOK Redux.

A little more honesty with fans, and lot less bait and switch, goes a long way.

 I'm someone who tries to avoid any sort of film marketing/spoilers so that wasn't really an issue for me.

I just watched Star Trek Continues' most recent episode yesterday.  It's called "The Fairest of Them All," a sequel to "Mirror, Mirror."  It takes place in the Mirror Universe immediately following the departure of the good universe's crew, showing how Spock "considers" Kirk's final words and where things go from there.  It was truly amazing.  I loved it!

I think CBS has done a TERRIBLE mistake NOT to release a standalone Bluray of The Cage this year - you know, the nice new transfer, seamless branching between the original and the CGI effects, a new audio commentary by Leonard Nimoy and the Okudas, a feature-length documentary, deleted scenes, bloopers .... It's Star Trek's 50 anniversary this year for Shatner's sake!

Yeah so we still have two years.

I just hope they don't try to rush a film out in that time.  Hopefully after ITD costing almost $200 million and just getting above the breaking even point they will have learned their lesson and focus on getting a good script for the next movie.

I really hope they do because to tell the truth I really don't have much interest in another Star Trek movie at the moment and I am about as die hard a fan as you can get but ITD was just that bad.

SilverWook said:

Anniversaries are typically celebrated on the date something makes it's debut.

 Well it depends ...

A lot of people consider this year to be the 50th anniversary.

The Cage was made in 1964, Where No Man Has Gone Before was made in 1965, but yes, the first season was made in 1966

pittrek said:

I think CBS has done a TERRIBLE mistake NOT to release a standalone Bluray of The Cage this year - you know, the nice new transfer, seamless branching between the original and the CGI effects, a new audio commentary by Leonard Nimoy and the Okudas, a feature-length documentary, deleted scenes, bloopers .... It's Star Trek's 50 anniversary this year for Shatner's sake!

Honestly, How many people would buy that?

For all intents and purposes The Cage was a failure but the episode IS available on bluray already if people are desperate. It would be far more effort than it would be worth.

I think the majority would consider 2016 to be the real 50th Anniversary.

Johnny Ringo said:

pittrek said:

I think CBS has done a TERRIBLE mistake NOT to release a standalone Bluray of The Cage this year - you know, the nice new transfer, seamless branching between the original and the CGI effects, a new audio commentary by Leonard Nimoy and the Okudas, a feature-length documentary, deleted scenes, bloopers .... It's Star Trek's 50 anniversary this year for Shatner's sake!

Honestly, How many people would buy that?

For all intents and purposes The Cage was a failure but the episode IS available on bluray already if people are desperate. It would be far more effort than it would be worth.

I think the majority would consider 2016 to be the real 50th Anniversary.

FAN: Happy 50th Anniversary of Star Trek!

FAN 2: Oh, did the show start 50 years ago?

FAN: No. It's when they shot the first episode.

FAN 2: Oh, like the pilot?

FAN: No. Like, a different pilot. Not of the show we're talking about.

Following that, why not go back to the 50th Anniversary of when Roddenberry came up with the idea? Or when he wrote the theme song lyrics? Of his first draft of THE Star Treak: The Adventures of James Kirkkiller.

Hey let's play a little game.  Let's say you were asked to come up with an idea and setting for a twenty odd episode per season new series of Star Trek to be aired in 2016. What would you characters,setting,and story be.  it can be anything as long as it would work in the Tv and not movie format.  let's see what we can come up with:)

I would get back to basics while playing with what has been set up. The setting of the show would be the brand new Enterprise F,it's first mission would be to explore.

The show would be set ten years after the Domian war and the war would be set up in flashback through out the season for viewers who didn't see DS9. The Federation and Romulans would be the only strong powers left and expanding all over the place.

For political reasons the Federation has decided that the flag ship needs to go on a mission of exploration into the Gamma Quadrant,which is mostly still unknown to the Federation and may be important if a war breaks out with the Romulans.

There is just one problem the war wiped out most of Starfleet's captains who are trained in deplomats and explores,pretty much all of the officers came up through the ranks in the war and have the mindset of combat troops seeing everything as a threat plus they will have to get along with races they were fighting in the war,the central question will be how do you ask these people to move from a war mindset to a mission of peace.

The Captain would not really be trusted by the crew because he went down in disgrace in the war. He is chosen for this mission because he is one of the few high ranking officers who is a trained diplomant and explorer,since he came up through the ranks before the war. He was respected enough at the time that he was given command of a group of ships in the opening days of the war but he was not a good combat officer and he fell for a trap everyone else saw coming and lost all the ships under his command,so he has been grounded since but now Starfleet turns to him because he is the only respected explorer they have left after the war but the crew being veterans of that war and going into their former enemy's space does not trust him so he has to prove himself to the crew and he has his hands full.

When they get to the Gamma Quadrant they take on a Vorta advisor to help them in their mission and needless to say this doesn't sit well with the crew and to make matters worse he or she wants to be helpful and over the course of the first few episodes the Captain comes to like him or her and this doesn't sit well with the crew.

What is more since the Dominion is gone and it was the only form of government most of the Gamma Quadrant knew for thousands of years the whole place is in chaos with some planets at war with each other and others starving and some that have just dropped out of contact with the rest of the galaxy. So while exploring the Captain's skills as a diplomat are put to the test solving the bigger problems that have been thrust into his lap,he gets little help from Starfleet since his mission is viewed by command as mostly PR to prove the Federation is not an Empire like the Romulans but the fact is command is too busy trying to out flank the Romulan empire to care much about one ship in this far off sector of space.

Episodes would be split between exploring,dealing with character's personal issues left over from the war,finding peaceful solutions to the problems of the Gamma quadrant,and dealing with the rising tensions with the Romulans.

Well that is my pitch,what do you think?

pretty much all of the officers came up through the ranks in the war and have the mindset of combat troops seeing everything as a threat plus they will have to get along with races they were fighting in the war,the central question will be how do you ask these people to move from a war mindset to a mission of peace.

I DO like this idea but they did kind of touch on that stuff already in Star Trek 6 -

Gorkon said: You don't trust me, do you? I don't blame you. If there is to be a brave new world, our generation is going to have the hardest time living in it.

So the only superpowers are the Federation and the Romulan star empire...and then Romulus is destroyed by the Hobus star, right?

What happnes next could be very interesting...or very boring.

The Gamma Quadrant is largely a blank canvas at this point, so setting something there could prove interesting, or at least fresh.

One thing we often see in Star trek is a crew of Humans with one or two aliens in the mix.

What if we were to flip things around and have a token 'human' that is the odd man out.

Would that be an interesting enough premise?

DrCrowTStarwars said:

Well that is my pitch,what do you think?

 I think you need to re-read my advice regarding walls of text.

Johnny Ringo said:

pretty much all of the officers came up through the ranks in the war and have the mindset of combat troops seeing everything as a threat plus they will have to get along with races they were fighting in the war,the central question will be how do you ask these people to move from a war mindset to a mission of peace.

I DO like this idea but they did kind of touch on that stuff already in Star Trek 6 -

Gorkon said: You don't trust me, do you? I don't blame you. If there is to be a brave new world, our generation is going to have the hardest time living in it.

So the only superpowers are the Federation and the Romulan star empire...and then Romulus is destroyed by the Hobus star, right?

What happnes next could be very interesting...or very boring.

The Gamma Quadrant is largely a blank canvas at this point, so setting something there could prove interesting, or at least fresh.

One thing we often see in Star trek is a crew of Humans with one or two aliens in the mix.

What if we were to flip things around and have a token 'human' that is the odd man out.

Would that be an interesting enough premise?

 Yeah I like that idea. Maybe the captain is the only human on a ship mostly populated by alien races that have only held supporting roles in older series so we get to learn about new races as well as the characters and the captain is the outsider this time.

I think the Romulans are powerful enough that their empire would survive the blow of their home world blowing up and they would still be in better shape then the Klingons who seemed to be on their last leg at the end of DS9.

I know the idea was touched on in Star Trek six but i think there is room to expand on it and use it to create contrast between the captain and his crew and give us stories where they would have to learn to trust each other.

Yeah it always bugged me that we didn't get to see too much of the Gamma quadrant on DS9 so I would love the chance to go there and really explore it.

Does anyone here visit Agonybooth.com? They recently wrote an article debating wether Picard should have died in "The Best Of Both Worlds" two parter. (Spoiler: yes, and it would have made the franchise better)

Side note: I don't think they like any movies or TV shows on that site; and IMO it started going downhill when they started focusing on video series instead of text recaps.

doubleKO said:

DrCrowTStarwars said:

Well that is my pitch,what do you think?

 I think you need to re-read my advice regarding walls of text.

 Sorry got a little too excited.  Fixed it.

doubleofive said:

I like the idea, as long as the Vorta is played by Jeffery Combs. And the captain is played by him too. And all of the aliens. And the ship.

 :)

DrCrowTStarwars said:

Let's say you were asked to come up with an idea and setting for a twenty odd episode per season new series of Star Trek to be aired in 2016. What would you characters,setting,and story be.  it can be anything as long as it would work in the Tv and not movie format.

I'd simply go with a reboot of TOS that remains faithful to the spirit of original Trek while also embracing modern storytelling and character development.

DuracellEnergizer said:

DrCrowTStarwars said:

Let's say you were asked to come up with an idea and setting for a twenty odd episode per season new series of Star Trek to be aired in 2016. What would you characters,setting,and story be.  it can be anything as long as it would work in the Tv and not movie format.

I'd simply go with a reboot of TOS that remains faithful to the spirit of original Trek while also embracing modern storytelling and character development.

 So, like Star Trek Continues? Or like a TV version of the new movie crew?

Please no reboots :-( What about an Enterprise sequel about the Romulan war? An CGI animated TOS sequel which will join TOS and TPM? What about a new 24th century series about Riker's USS Titan? What about a movie/series version of the Countdown comic? Something which will join the old universe with JJverse?

I like most of those ideas but I have to admit personally I am little sick of reboots in general,not just with Star Trek but everywhere. So I would rather see something set in the prime universe.

Riker on the Titan could work since that would tie into TNG and right now that series seems to be just as popular and have just as much Nostalgia for it as TOS and it would continuing the story instead of rebooting the universe yet again.

Here's a novel idea for Star Trek - A starship goes on its maiden voyage and nothing goes horribly wrong.