Concerning the brightness of last pic of Ripley from Aliens as nirbateman and applesandrice pointed out. That ended up being a mistake. I was running a test h.264 encode and taking a look at it through VLC. I had just downloaded the newest version and forgot to turn off the "Use hardware YUV->RGB Conversion" which brightens the pic like that when I took a snapshot. So that does not reflect the newest changes. That's why I post here, to get the bugs out. Everyone saw a problem and I could fix it.
_,,,^..^,,,_ said:
I was forced to be offline due to my HDTV (actually my only monitor) had to be fixed, and in just ten days all this happened?!? Well... WONDERFUL!!! (^^.)
I'm so happy a "new wave" of fan restorers is rising up!
Back to topic: I think LD color grading is the way to go, apart some shots that should NOT be used, like Ash's head scene.
Last Aliens regrade (bottom pic) is very good, but I'd try also the channels remix way - the more options, the better IMHO.
About LD 2.0 track: which LD will you use? Because I think there *could* be different mixes out there, *maybe* also analog and PCM could be different...
Thanks for posting here Andrea. I briefly talked to Andrea before I created this thread to get his advice and he has always been encouraging. Frankly, seeing his work with the Carpenter discs made me want to try some projects myself.
For Alien's 2.0, I'm using this LD:
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/10590/1090-80/Alien-(1979)
And Aliens, this one:
http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/10644/1504-80/Aliens-(1986)
They are the oldest US LDs I can find with a digital soundtrack (ie PCM DS 2.0). Apparently the LDs right before that were analog but the Dolby Stereo/Surround for both was not properly matrixed.
FremenDar2019 said:
Damn nice! Here's hoping you'll be putting these both on BD50s. How about a custom BD50 Extended Edition of ALIEN with 1979 cinematic color timing? Don't forget subtitles either!
Again not sure how I'm going to present or distribute this work if and when I finish (also assuming people will want a copy). I'm leaning towards Blu-ray (people can always make an MKV out of this) but they would be simple BDs since I can't do menus. Figuring out how to author those BDs is another battle. Also I will definitely need some help from people to test burn the BD. I only have a PS3/Xbox1 for a BD player and they are very forgiving.
I also need to decide what to put out there. I'm definitely going to do Alien (Theatrical Cut) with LD colors and Aliens (Theatrical Cut) with LD colors. I am leaning towards doing Aliens (TC) with DVD colors since the LD version is leaning too red for most people.
So maybe one disc Alien (25GB) and another Aliens LD colors and Aliens DVD colors on another (50GB)? Or maybe one disc of Alien LD colors and Alien 99 DVD colors (50GB)? Or one disc of Alien and Aliens LD colors the another of DVD colors...Maybe I'm being way too ambitious and should do 25 GB for Alien LD, one for Aliens LD and one for Aliens DVD. That's a decision that's still a while off.
Jonno said:
StarThoughts said:
Regarding the audio: Did the AC-3 LD have a Dolby Surround version of the Sensurround test track, or was it the same mix from the CAV box set (which I think was the 35 millimeter Dolby Stereo)?
Both the AC-3 and the PCM mixdown on that disc are the same mix, i.e. the 'Sensurround' version. I'm fairly certain that the CAV disc's mix is the standard Dolby Stereo - like the Star Wars mixes, the home video versions may have been slightly tweaked, but all the tapes and discs from 1982 to 1992 sound fundamentally the same.
Good to see Andrea aboard! I've been doing a few captures of the laserdiscs in my collection (a 1982 PAL disc, the 1992 Collector's set and the 1995 THX AC-3). It appears that some of the more contentious shots in the 1995 (the Mother room, Ash's head) are exclusive to that release; since they appear to reflect original 35mm print timing, perhaps the THX disc was a conscious effort to represent an authentic theatrical look (as well as sound)?
So the 82 and 92 are pretty consistent, Jonno? White Ash scene? I still like to stick to the 95 not only from what you found Jonno but since it just looks different enough to be interesting. Something worth doing. Also found this difference:
BD/BD with LD Colors
Its when Kane gives "birth" to the chestburster. Its the same dinner table used later in the Ash scene and they gave it a similar blue/green tint.
Despite those odd scenes (Mother, Ash) there are a bunch of scenes that line up between the LD and BD. They are not all together dissimilar. For instance when Ripley confronts Dallas in the hallway, it is the same colors and brightness. Other scenes just need the green color correction removed to line up.