**RUMOR** Original theatrical cut of the OT to be released on blu ray!! — Page 10

TV's Frink said:

I don't know, I've never had nothing to say before.

LAIR! 

imperialscum said:

TV's Frink said:

imperialscum said:

That's like saying 15 and 16 are identical numbers, while 5 and 6 aren't...

 They're certainly closer to identical...

Well that is why I picked those examples. They are bit closer but still not identical.

 OMG sarcasm fail.

lovelikewinter said:

My perfect Star Wars Trilogy

Star Wars

1977 and 1981 crawls via seamless breaching

70mm, Stereo and Mono mixes

Deleted Scenes

Trailers

The Making of Star Wars Vintage Doc

Cantina Drunk Driving PSA

The Star Wars Holiday Special (SD)

The Empire Strikes Back

Deleted and extended scenes

Trailers

SFX: Making of ESB

Mark Hamil on the Muppet Show

Ralph McQuarrie Tribute

Return of the Jedi

Deleted and Extended Scenes

Trailers

Classic Creatures: Return of the Jedi

Lapti Nek music video

C-3PO and R2-D2 on Sesame Street

From the Vaults

Empire of Dreams

From Star Wars to Jedi

Lucas VHS interview

Previous DVD extras

Then the Ewok Films on a separate Blu-Ray in HD.  

 

If they also include both the 35mm and 70mm mixes for ESB, this truly is the perfect set. The awesomeness if this cannot be put into words.

moviefreakedmind said:

Ultimately, this rumor will never be debunked/confirmed unless it's by Disney/Lucasfilm themselves. The only speculation (except for here at least) online is being done by people who are completely ignorant of, but still obsessed with, the distribution rights "issue", and it's pretty annoying.

Agreed 100%.

They aren't going to release the 97 versions again. The only versions you'll see in HD in the future are the UOT and whatever current, final, "true" version of the trilogy George or someone else at Lucasfilm/Disney has dreamed up.

I DO believe they will release some version of the UOT in HD...and I equally believe that they will continue to create "new" versions of the films as well.  Everything in between...97, 04, 11, will pretty much just fall away. Any more than the original version + the current version is just going to confuse people.

That said, as a lover of these films and their history, I'd personally love to see a Blade Runner type release, where the UOT, 97, 04, 11 plus whatever the most current version is, are all included, with only the OUT + the current version available separately to avoid confusing the public. It's just hard for me to see Disney going that route...but I'd love it.

And no, for all that's good and green in this world, do not involve George Lucas in deciding what the colour timing should be. I'd rather go by the memory of a retried near sighted colour blind projectionist from a second run theatre than trust the timing to George.

moviefreakedmind said:

 I was positively shocked when the GOUT didn't include the New Hope crawl, especially since they would've had to have edited it out of the laserdisc transfer I believe

 This shocked me as well. As you said, it pretty much meant that they had to do something with the film other than merely port over the LD transfer. And it means that someone at Lucasfilm was aware that the very small act of reverting to the 77 crawl meant something to a relatively small group of people.

On the other hand, since they were aware of how passionate these people were about it, the fact that they thought for a second they could get away with the crappy transfer we got boggles the mind. The only answer is what it always is for Lucasfilm...Dollars, Pounds and Euros. The only people they'd get to buy those films again are the die hards, and they'd have to give us something to shell out more more for the crappy SE's we hate and in any event already had.

I've said it before and will say it again, there will NOT be new versions of the films.

moviefreakedmind said:

I assume it'll be like the GOUT, not quality-wise, but in a sense that it's the second disc for each movie

I can promise you that the OOT will be the first disc for each movie. It's clear that there's more demand for the OOT than for any version of the SE. If the included SE versions are worth silver, the OOT is worth gold.

DominicCobb said:

I've said it before and will say it again, there will NOT be new versions of the films.

I strongly disagree with this. New versions of these films is the one thing that I think is as close to a certainty as you can get with guessing.

But it's still in many ways, IMO, up to George. In ten years if he's still involved, and decides the 11 CGI looks too crappy and doesn't reflect his 1975 original vision, and that 2025 CGI would be closer to his 1975 original vision, and wants to have another crack at them I can't see Disney saying no.

darklordoftech said:

I can promise you that the OOT will be the first disc for each movie. It's clear that there's more demand for the OOT than for any version of the SE. If the included SE versions are worth silver, the OOT is worth gold.

I strongly agree with this. First disc and/or stand alone release of the UOT absolutely. They're not going to spend the time and money on a prestige project like this to stick it as a bonus disc. The only reason GOUT was a bonus disc is b/c it didn't cost them anything.

darklordoftech said:

If the included SE versions are worth silver, the OOT is worth gold.

I'd rather compare SW & TESB to gold, ROTJ to silver, and the SE to heavily tarnished copper, but that's just me. ;-) 

The 4k SE will probably be the "final" revision of the movies. George knows he can't keep changing these movies forever. It's worth noting he's the same age now as Ridley Scott when the final cut of Blade Runner was released.

StarThoughts said:

I don't think there is more demand for the OUT than the SE. I just think the people who want the original are more vocal than the people who are either content with the SE or don't know the difference.

 I think this is true, depending on what you mean by "demand". The SE's are already available in HD on BD, so anyone who wants those, or more aptly, doesn't care, can readily acquire them. As you said, the number of people who specifically care about the issue and want the UOT are undoubtedly smaller, but I'd say the "demand" is greater and more intense simply because the UOT isn't available in any suitable home video format.

There's also the old adage in marketing that people want what you tell them to want, and don't know what they want until they want it. For a long time the SE's were pushed as the best version of Star Wars, with all the bells and whistles, so people dutifully bought them.  If these films do come out in their original form, once the Disney marketing machine kicks in (and Disney does nothing well if it's not nostalgia) everyone will think they just must have the original version of Star Wars and wonder how they ever just lived with the SE's all those years.  

Nick66 said:

DominicCobb said:

I've said it before and will say it again, there will NOT be new versions of the films.

I strongly disagree with this. New versions of these films is the one thing that I think is as close to a certainty as you can get with guessing.

But it's still in many ways, IMO, up to George. In ten years if he's still involved, and decides the 11 CGI looks too crappy and doesn't reflect his 1975 original vision, and that 2025 CGI would be closer to his 1975 original vision, and wants to have another crack at them I can't see Disney saying no.

George does not care about Star Wars anymore, and LFL does not care about George anymore. He's retired, he's out of the picture. Everything that LFL is doing with Star Wars, going ahead, has nothing to do with George. He is no longer involved.

Here's what I said earlier in the 4K thread:

I wouldn't bet on a new version of the SE. There are so many reasons why not. Let's first of all remember that none of the directors of the OT are in the picture any more, and usually when there's a new cut of a movie for home video they're involved. So who would be making the changes? What would be their goal? Would they get rid of some earlier changes? Let's not forget now that the people in charge now probably don't care at all for the SE. And Disney/LFL is on this OT train, and they must know that real lovers of the OT prefer the OOT and hate the SE with a passion. So they'd probably think (incorrectly) that OTers would not care for and possibly complain about a new SE.

If these rumours are true and it were up to me...I'd ideally release the HD's of the originals a few weeks before J.J.'s sequel arrives to maximise on all the likely hooplah surrounding the fact that Han, Luke, and Leia etc. are about to return on the big screen shortly...while at the same time completely removing *all* the existing SE versions off the shelves and putting them on a very long 'moratorium'! - click on the word 'moratorium' in the 2nd line of the description here for some comprehensive details - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Vault

New fans who were only seeing the OT for the first time would get to see the superior (in my view) way that these movies from the late 70's and early 80's were edited back then...but would also get nicely primed for the forthcoming Sequel Trilogy if the originals were released with a fanfare beforehand.  And everyone else could get used to seeing the original cuts as the 'de facto' versions again, with the others effectively out of the way.

I would also clear the shelves of the Prequel Trilogy, and put them on a long 'moratorium' too...and that goes for t.v. showings of any sort also!

As a bit of extra fun though, I might just consider putting the current SE's as non-anamorphic dvd 'bonus' extras on this HD release of the originals too...and this would be the only way to see them for a long, long time.

Unfortunately it's *not* up to me...but hey, a guy can wish, can't he?

DominicCobb said:

So they'd probably think (incorrectly) that OTers would not care for and possibly complain about a new SE.

Good point.  As an addendum, I'd also eventually announce that adywan's HD Revisited Saga would be getting an official release after the Sequel Trilogy is done, as it's highly likely to be the best SE that could ever be worth producing...and confirm that he'd be rewarded with more wealth than you can imagine.

How much?  I don't know...I can imagine quite a bit! :)    

Another thing to consider:

One big reason Lucas decided to put out the OT on dvd in 2004 is because he realized he could use it to hype RotS, the movie that was going to complete the saga.

Now Disney wants to hype the continuation of the saga.

Here's what I said earlier in the 4K thread:

I wouldn't bet on a new version of the SE. There are so many reasons why not. Let's first of all remember that none of the directors of the OT are in the picture any more, and usually when there's a new cut of a movie for home video they're involved. So who would be making the changes? What would be their goal? Would they get rid of some earlier changes? Let's not forget now that the people in charge now probably don't care at all for the SE. And Disney/LFL is on this OT train, and they must know that real lovers of the OT prefer the OOT and hate the SE with a passion. So they'd probably think (incorrectly) that OTers would not care for and possibly complain about a new SE.

If there is a new version, it was probably already in the works before Lucas sold it all to Disney.  However, Disney has altered some of its films without the consent the filmmakers who are still alive.  Take "The Little Mermaid" as a recent example.  The changes were minor, but still changes nonetheless.  I wouldn't be surprised if Disney tweaked the Star Wars films (including the PT) here and there.