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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 487

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jimjimmyjones85 said:

Harmy said:

I'm sorry guys, but does the title of this thread read "Will the OOT be released on BD"?

This latest rumor is currently being discussed here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/4K-restoration-on-Star-Wars-Official/post/722162/#TopicPost722162

 I'm not so sure. Fox still retained the rights to Star Wars.

Disney will have to throw some more money around to get anything moving.

Time will tell.

Even still with all the DNR messes they have given recently with older titles, I am not sure they will give it the love it needs to make it what it should be.

Plus, Lucas is still alive...not sure it's happening.

 
Seriously?

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Nick66 said:

something about the Disney rumor and then he chickened out and edited it... ;-)

Oh, for fuck's sake, now you're really starting to piss me off!

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Harmy said:

Seriously?

Evidently...maybe some have you on ignore in your own thread o_O

GUYS, lets keep this thread to discussing Harmy's work. Namely his most recent request for input and help from the community:

Guys, can you help me find a few shots, the sound of which would most clearly show sound effects being different in the BD mix over the original mixes (other than the Krayt dragon scream) and then also clips showing music being drowned by sound effects? Thanks!

And

I don't need a long list - I need some shot I could play while the narration says this:

The original Oscar-winning soundmix was redone as well.

[Play a before/after sound clip]

Nar: And in this new mix some of the original Oscar-winning sound effects were replaced.

[Play the krayt dragon yell from the original and the BD]

Nar: And even John Williams’ award winning score suffered, by being drowned by sound effects in some places.

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Hey have you guys heard that there's this rumor that Disney might be remastering the OOT?

Harrison Ford Has Pretty Much Given Up on His Son. Here's Why

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I realize how dangerous it is for 'certain' people to find out about this project, but I have to say... it really makes me proud of Harmy for doing such a great job that it's getting recognition.

Plus, I've said it before, I'd find it hard to believe if those 'certain' people don't already know about it anyway.  I'm just glad that the people that really appreciate it are able to hear about and see it for themselves.

The newsletter itself is up to 1,021 subscribers.  That's 16 more than there were just this morning.

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From the comments:

I showed my dad the Harmy Despecialized edition last night, and immediately following the Tantive IV boarding fight, he said, “Wow…” I turned to look at him, and his face is wistfully nostalgic. He elaborated, “This is the first time watching Star Wars that I can actually remember seeing this in the theater. It’s like I’m right back there. I can remember everything. I was actually worried about my bike getting stolen outside before I remembered that was 37 years ago. That’s never happened before.”

Movie magic is powerful stuff.

That just makes me so happy :´-)

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Nice (and scary) to see you getting the publicity you deserve, Harmy. You rock, keep it up.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

END OF LINE

(It hasn’t happened yet)

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Zer0Squared said:

I'd find it hard to believe if those 'certain' people don't already know about it anyway.

Yeah when I first saw those articles I got a little nervous, but its probably foolish to think they aren't already aware of the project.  And Harmy if you are giving Yahoo quotes I guess you aren't too worried about the further exposure either?

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jimjimmyjones85 said:

Harmy said:

I'm sorry guys, but does the title of this thread read "Will the OOT be released on BD"?

This latest rumor is currently being discussed here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/4K-restoration-on-Star-Wars-Official/post/722162/#TopicPost722162

Even still with all the DNR messes they have given recently with older titles, I am not sure they will give it the love it needs to make it what it should be.

 

Yeah, transfers of catalog titles have been all over the place.

Still, for example Alien and Aliens, Terminator, Robocop give me hope.

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Newbie Help Please!

I only just now discovered the existence of these despecialized editions, and desperately want to download them to watch.  But I know NOTHING about torrents or JDownloader or all that stuff, and can't seem to find a "downloading for dummies" step-by-step instructions on how to do so.

I read the OP, downloaded JDownloader, signed up at tehparadox and found the files, and it is currently downloading them all, but then what do I do with the files?  How do I go from those 37 .rar  files to the playable final product?  Do I need to unpack or extract them somehow?  Do I then need to combine them somehow? What do I use to play them? 

I apologize for the newbie ignorance, and I'm sure there's some kind of directions out there somewhere, I just need someone to point me to them. 

Thank you!!!!

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Harmy, this extraordinary....wow. These notices about what you've done are glowing.  Can't imagine how it makes you feel.

Glad you're getting the credit you deserve on this. Very, very well done. No matter what Disney does in the future, man you're part of Star Wars history now.  Congrats.

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Well, it is a bit scary but there have been articles in fairly high-profile media before and the DeEd is always mentioned a hundred times over in the comments of all articles about the OOT, so when they contacted me with some questions, I figured they'll be writing the article either way, so it would be better if I had at least some sort of say in it. They edited my quotes down quite a bit, which was to be expected of course but in the process, they often sort of changed the emphasis of what I was saying. For example in the quote about my worries about the Disney release, they edited out DVNR, which I put first, because that's my biggest concern. They also completely ignored, what I consider the most important part of my response about copyright.

Here's the full text of my responses:

1) How did you originally get the idea to create the Despecialized Editions?

I study English and American Cultural Studies and the cultural impact of the original Star Wars was actually the topic of my undergraduate thesis. And I’m convinced that the Special Edition greatly diminishes the immense historical value of these films, so I do believe that people should to be able to view the original Oscar-winning versions of these films and that they should be presented in a quality that will do them justice. And that’s why I wanted to make the Despecialized Editions.

Another big part of why I wanted to make an edit like that was being able to introduce new people to SW without having to decide whether to show them what I personally consider a butchered version but in high definition, or an original version but from an mpeg2 encoded 1993 Laserdisc master with motion smearing, washed out colors and all the other problems  of the 2006 “GOUT” DVDs. And, also at the time I started working on the Despecialized Edition, my little brother was like 3 and I wanted to show him the original versions when he was old enough and I can happily tell you, that my little brother got introduced to the adventures of Luke Skywalker at the age of five, using the Despecialized Edition version 2.1 and he loved it.


2) It's been a work in progress for some time--do you ever anticipate completing it?


I'd like to finish versions 2.5 of all three movies and then I'm hoping my efforts will become unnecessary, if/when the originals are actually released on BD (though if they aren't I'm confident that with the current state of fan-preservation efforts, a full, completely professional-looking restoration of the OOT is possible and could be done in perhaps a year or two).


3) Do you personally think that George Lucas will ever make the original unaltered trilogy available on DVD or Blu-ray?

Well, luckily for us fans, Mr Lucas can't release crap anymore but I do believe, that Disney is quite likely to release the originals eventually. The question is, whether it will be a worthy release - I'm worried though, that we may get a DVNRed release, with wrong colors and without the original sound mixes (all you need to do is look at other Disney catalog releases) or some sort of semi-despecialized edition with lots of the subtler changes left in. I'm hoping, that that won't be the case though and they will want to appease the fans by doing a proper release.

And yes, I do think it will be Disney, not Fox, who will be dictating the hows and whens of any new releases, just like it was Lucas, not Fox, who dictated them in 2004, 2006 and 2011. Fox only has distribution rights, which, the way I understand it, means that when the copyright owner decides to release the movies, they have to let Fox handle distribution.


4) Have you had to deal with any legal issues yet concerning this project?


Luckily, no. I, nor anyone else, are making any money on any of this and all of my projects have this disclaimer, which I put everywhere I make them available:


This is a fan preservation made for cultural, historical and educational purposes.                                     
Fanedits and preservations must not be bought or sold.                                                                  
Please report every fanedit or preservation you find for sale to webmasters of originaltrilogy.com.                     
Fanedits and preservations are an art-form and to be shared among legal owners of the officially available releases only.
Do not support piracy.

It is a sort of grey area but I do believe, that the vast majority of people, who download my projects are life-long fans, who do own all the official editions anyway. Plus my edits probably make up like 1% of all the illegal downloads of Star Wars, so I think these fan preservations (there are many others besides mine) don't present any financial threat to the copyright holders whatsoever.


5) What can fans who perhaps weren't aware of this project before do to help?

They can come to the originaltrilogy.com forum an give their support and share their experiences. The support and enthusiasm of the people at originaltrilogy.com has helped me a lot, whenever the work got a bit frustrating.  

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That's badass! Thanks for sharing the full responses!

I am truly sorry for the derailment with that article. Should have expected the silly responses, and timing was not good. I guess I innocently thought that folks would either read and move on, or something.

As to the question about where music is drowned out, I do not know of a good example off the top of my head, but can suffer an SE viewing to see if I can find a good moment.

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Here's a rough cut of part 1 of the Introducing the Despecialized Edition documentary, that I'm working on:

http://uloz.to/xtRatFDp/introducing-the-deed01-wp-mp4

The video side of things isn't quite complete (mainly the part where sound is discussed) and the sound mixing is very rough and will require proper mastering, denoising and some additional music but the timing should remain the same in the final version, so I'd very much appreciate, if someone would create English subtitles in SRT format, so that other can start working on the translations, as I'd like the final release to have subs in as many languages as possible.

You may be surprised by the frame in which the video is put but this is what I plan the whole bonus BD menu to look like, plus it makes sure, that everything stays within the safe margins.

You'll also notice, that this uses some text and footage from the Sources documentary but that is only because the final version of the sources doc (which will be part4 of the final doc) will also be re-edited.

You'll also find, that I took a lot of the yahoo responses above directly from what I'm saying in this doc ;-)

Oh, and I think this is obvious, but I'll say it nonetheless: No re-uploads of this anywhere, please - it's just a rough cut, which I'd like to stay on this forum for now.

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I've begun the English subtitles, since my job is actually to make subtitles, but English is not my native language, so some proof-reading will be needed. I can take part in the French translation, though.

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Oh boy, the little screenshot preview indicates we'll see what Harmy looks like!  In HD!

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Dear HArmy,

this is an excelent production!... for your knowledgement the audio TRACK  9) 1.0 Dolby Digital [Spanish]        (1980 Latino dub) is from my synchronization of some version of english DVDs... if you have this video you must see the UFL logo in the right corner.

regards