I hate Revan more than I hate The Phantom Menace and Attack of the clones. This third generation of SW fans that put him on par to Luke/Vader/Palpatine is quite possibly the most irritating thing to me of all.
The internet needs more people like you, Carthage.
Carthage said:
I hate Revan more than I hate The Phantom Menace and Attack of the clones. This third generation of SW fans that put him on par to Luke/Vader/Palpatine is quite possibly the most irritating thing to me of all.
Actually, I like Revan. His character arc about going from a hero to villain then back is interesting. However, I agree too many KotOR fans put his extremely powerful (sometimes god-like) to the point that he overpowers the movie Jedi/Sith. I think that's bull.
Screw lightsabers, I’ll stick with regular swords. At least they won’t blow up in my face like this franchise has.
Another thing that I hate about KOTOR is how anachronistic it is. It uses the "Darth" title way too early in the timeline and the technology is way too advanced for all those years before the movies. The prequels doing the two things that I mentioned was bad enough.
DuracellEnergizer said:
To put things more succinctly:
- In the continuity of the Marvel comics, Boba Fett was a Mandalorian who fought in the Clone Wars alongside Fenn Shysa and other Mandalorians under the banner of the Empire before going rogue and becoming a bounty hunter.
- In the post-Marvel, pre-AOTC EU, Boba Fett was a Journeyman Protector-turned-bounty hunter whose real name was Jaster Mereel. He had no known ties to the Mandalorians beyond wearing a suit of their armour he found some time after adopting his new identify.
- In the post-AOTC EU, Boba Fett was once again a Mandalorian. It wasn't said so in AOTC, but the EU writers ran with the idea because -- well -- just because.
- In the post-TCW continuity, Boba Fett is back to being just a bounty hunter who wears Mandalorian armour without having any ties to them.
Crap, I forgot about this thread and was going to post a rundown similar to this.
I've always felt Boba was always Boba and a Mandalorian, mostly down to the Marvel interpretation, but I also love the Moran-written Fett stories. I always chose to believe that the Jaster Mereel identity was one Boba invented after the Clone Wars and the enslavement of Mandalore by the Empire in order to rewrite his own story.
darklordoftech said:
Traviss's Mando worship. Wearing cool armor doesn't make you the good guy.
This. She successfully turned an interesting and diverse group into a homogenous slop of "really-awesome-never-wrong-always-cool-'badass'-fanservice" mush.
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Tyrphanax said:
She successfully turned an interesting and diverse group into a homogenous slop of "really-awesome-never-wrong-always-cool-'badass'-fanservice" mush.
So, she basically turned the Mandalorians into an army of Batmen. ;-)
I hate when people say, "The prequels did it, therefore it's ok if the EU does it too." If anything, shouldn't the EU be trying to avoid the problems with the prequels?
I really hate how the EU just completely ignores how in episode II the Old Republic is stated to not only have mapped out the whole galaxy, but two others completely. They keep the unknown regions thing, which frankly I don't like.
The Merchant said:
I really hate how the EU just completely ignores how in episode II the Old Republic is stated to not only have mapped out the whole galaxy, but two others completely. They keep the unknown regions thing, which frankly I don't like.
A galaxy with some mystery to it is better than a galaxy where every nook and cranny's been charted and explored.
Well if the Old Republic is big enough to cover three Galaxies a much easier way to do something like the Unknown regions would be the space outside or between the Galaxies or just explore other galaxies all-together. I mean no one in the EU even touched the other two Galaxies, so far as I know the only material about them is the film in which they were presented in.
Uh....where are you get this three galaxies thing?
Attack of the Clones. One of the dwarf galaxies is called the Rishi Maze.
Uh huh...well the EU declaring it a galaxy is indeed dumb. AOTC itself never clarifies what it is.
Tobar said:
Uh huh...well the EU declaring it a galaxy is indeed dumb. AOTC itself never clarifies what it is.
No kidding. Jesus.
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Maybe it's a gigantic glowing space-borne monster which consumes entire galaxies. In a few lifetimes, it'll finally complete its trek to the SW Galaxy and swallow it whole.
In light of the PT and SE, that isn't such a bad prospect.
The way how in the prequels they added way too many new planets, many of which were similar to the original trilogy's planets (for example: Geonosis is pretty much exactly the same as Tatooine), and seemed to forget about most of the planets from the original trilogy. For example: we never see or hear of Bespin, Yavin, Endor, Dantooine, Hoth, Dagobah and many others in the prequels
I love that aspect of the PT, actually. Not the similarities of planets, but that there were many new ones. It doesn't make sense that they'd keep ending up on the same planets in a galaxy that size. I hope the ST continues that trend.
One thing I hate about the EU is that it made Ki-Adi-Mundi a Jedi Knight on the council. That makes Anakin's already embarrassing rant meaningless.
Noah Niedzolkowski said:
The way how in the prequels they added way too many new planets, many of which were similar to the original trilogy's planets (for example: Geonosis is pretty much exactly the same as Tatooine), and seemed to forget about most of the planets from the original trilogy. For example: we never see or hear of Bespin, Yavin, Endor, Dantooine, Hoth, Dagobah and many others in the prequels
Um first, this is an EU thread.
Second, there's an entire galaxy out there, why keep revisiting the same planets over and over again. It's a vast waste of potential. It also would have made zero sense to revisit most of those planets as:
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I'm surprised I haven't mentioned these before.
Many people write the EU off as glorified fan-fiction. While I have many bones to pick with how the EU was handled, I think handwaving it all away as fan-fiction is disingenous. But these stories -- these three lameass wastes of ink and paper -- they are glorified fan-fiction -- bad fan-fiction, the fan-fiction a diehard PT fanboy would write if he got the chance to rewrite the OT.
Oh, look -- Boba Fett's in Lando's office, sitting in Lando's chair, with his helmet off! Kewl!
Wow -- Vader survived the events of ROTJ! Do the Rebels imprison him pending a trial for war crimes? No! He just dyes his armour white and the Rebels embrace him like they're goddamn Care Bears!
There is so much story potential to be found in "what if" scenarios, and it is a horrible shame this trilogy of tripe is the franchise's only foray into the subject.
I hate how the EU treats entire planets like countries. Everyone speaks the same language, there is a single leader, etc. They all have too much uniformity which makes the planets feel much smaller than planets.
I'll be honest, the first Infinities wasn't that bad, I actually thought it was pretty good. The other two were bleh.
RicOlie_2 said:
I hate how the EU treats entire planets like countries. Everyone speaks the same language, there is a single leader, etc. They all have too much uniformity which makes the planets feel much smaller than planets.
That's a problem with a lot of sci-fi franchises focusing on interstellar civilizations, though.
I guess so. Are there any that are realistic in that regard?
Also, I just discovered that there's a whole race of Hulks in the EU:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dazouri
Why do people feel the need to cram a version of everything on earth into Star Wars?
They have so many pointless story arcs with Vader.