STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 394

DominicCobb said:

Regarding the Ben's hut scene, I'm a little confused. Everyone seems to say that ady's version follows the script. But it doesn't. I've looked at the script, the theatrical cut follows the scene exactly as it was written. However, ady's version does flow well and it seems as if the scene was shot with that sequence of dialogue in mind. Can someone clarify this for me?

 From what I understand, Ady's version is the scene as it was originally shot. That is why there are no continuity errors in it, naturally. It was then later re-edited in post-production due to what the filmmakers felt was a pacing issue.

I happen to agree with this, and that is why I prefer the theatrical version. I don't mean to disrespect Ady's decision in his rearrangement, it's just my opinion. I never set out to say that Ady is wrong, nor did I imply that those who like his edit of that scene are wrong.

I just have my preference, and I felt it was worth explaining why, that is all.

DominicCobb said:

Regarding the Ben's hut scene, I'm a little confused. Everyone seems to say that ady's version follows the script. But it doesn't. I've looked at the script, the theatrical cut follows the scene exactly as it was written. However, ady's version does flow well and it seems as if the scene was shot with that sequence of dialogue in mind. Can someone clarify this for me?

 Don't forget that the script was changed for publication to match the released film. Ady's version matches the shooting script - the script at time of filming.

DominicCobb said:

timdiggerm said:

DominicCobb said:

Regarding the Ben's hut scene, I'm a little confused. Everyone seems to say that ady's version follows the script. But it doesn't. I've looked at the script, the theatrical cut follows the scene exactly as it was written. However, ady's version does flow well and it seems as if the scene was shot with that sequence of dialogue in mind. Can someone clarify this for me?

 Don't forget that the script was changed for publication to match the released film. Ady's version matches the shooting script - the script at time of filming.

If that's the case, why does the script include deleted material like Luke at Anchorhead? And even within that scene there are differences. For example, Ben says: "An elegant weapon, for a more civilized time."

 Check the original novel , which was based off the final draft ( i thiink). Ben's hut scene starts with Leia's message

The 4th draft of the script, which is the shooting script,  has the scene in the order i edited it also

BEN
Quickly son, they’re on the move.
41. OMITTED
42. INT. CAVE DWELLING – MAIN LIVING AREA

The small, spartan hovel, is cluttered with desert junk, but still manages to radiate an air of time worn comfort and security. Luke is in one corner repairing Threepio’s arm, as old Ben fiddles with Artoo.

BEN
Now let’s see if we can’t figure out what you are my little friend and where you came from.

LUKE
I saw part of a message he…

Luke is cut short, as the recorded image of the beautiful young rebel princess is projected from R-2′s face.

BEN
Yes, I seem to have found it.

Luke stops his work as the lovely girl’s image flickers before his eyes.
PRINCESS LEIA
General Obi-wan Kenobi, I present myself in the name of the royal family of Alderaan, and the Alliance to restore the Republic. I break your solitude at the bidding of my father Bail Antillies, Viceroy and Chairman of the Alderaan system. Years ago Commander you served the Republic in the Clone Wars. Now he begs you to aid us again in our most desperate hours. He would have you join him on our home planet Alderaan. You must go to him! I regret I am unable to present my father’s request to you in person… my mission to return with you has failed, information vital to the survival of the Alliance has been placed in this droid… my father will know how to retrieve it. I plead with you to see this R-2 unit safely delivered to Alderaan. You must help me, you are my last hope.

There is a little static and the transmission is cut short Old Ben leans back and scratches his head. He silently puffs on a tarnished chrome water pipe. Luke has stars in his eyes.

LUKE
She is so… terrific. Commander?? You fought in The Clone Wars??

BEN
Oh yes… I was once a Jedi knight… like your father.

LUKE
Jedi knight?? My father didn’t fight in the wars. He was a navigator…. on a spice freighter.

BEN
Oh so your Uncle told you .. He didn’t agree with your father’s ideals, thought he should have stayed here and not gotten involved. He was always afraid your father’s adventures might influence you ..

LUKE
I wish I’d known him…
BEN
He was the best starpilot in the galaxy and a clever warrior… he was a good friend. I understand you’ve become quite a good pilot yourself… in many ways you’re much like your father.

Ben gets up and goes to a chest, where he rummages around.

BEN (cont’d)
Which reminds me, I have something here for you. When you were old enough, your father wanted you to have this. I tried to give it to you but your uncle wouldn’t allow it. He believed you might follow old Obi-wan on some idealistic crusade as your father did.

Luke finishes repairing Threepio and starts to fit the restraining bolt back on, Threepio looks at him nervously, Luke thinks about the bolt for a moment then puts it on the table. Ben shuffles up and presents Luke with a short handle with several electronic gadgets attached to it.

THREEPIO
Sir, if you’ll not be needing me, I think I’ll shut down for a while.

LUKE
Sure, go ahead.
(to BEN)
What is it?

BEN
Your father’s light saber. At one time they were widely used… I believe they still are in some parts of the galaxy…

Luke pushes a button on the handle and a long laser beam shoots out about four feet, flickers there.

BEN (cont’d)
This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight… not as clumsy or random as a blaster. An elegant weapon… for a more civilized time.
(He begins to remember)
For over a thousand generations Jedi Knights were the most powerful, most respected force in the galaxy… the guardians of peace and justice in the old republic. That was when the galactic senate ruled the galaxy before the dark times, before the empire.
Luke hasn’t really been listening.

LUKE
How did my father die?

BEN
He was betrayed and murdered… by a young Jedi, Darth Vader. A boy I was training, one of my brightest disciples, one of my greatest failures… He used the power of the force for evil – to help the empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi knights, now the Jedi are all but extinct. Vader was seduced by the dark side of the force and it consumed him.

LUKE
The force??

BEN
The force is… let’s just say the force is something a Jedi deals with. It is an energy field created by living things – it surrounds us – it binds the galaxy together – it directs our actions. Knowledge of the force is what gives a Jedi his power. You must learn the ways of the force if you are to come with me to Alderaan.

LUKE
Alderaan!?? I’m not going to Alderaan. I’ve got to get back home! It’s late, I’m in for it as it is… you can take the droid… I’ll think of something to tell my uncle… I hope…

BEN
I need your help, Luke. I’m afraid I’m getting too old for this sort of thing ..

LUKE
I can’t get involved, I’ve got work to do. I mean I don’t like the empire… I hate it… but there is nothing I can do about it right now… it’s all such a long way from here.

BEN
That’s your uncle talking.
LUKE
Oh, my uncle. How am I going to explain all this.

BEN
Remember, the Force is with all men, it binds them together. The suffering of one is the suffering of all.

LUKE
I can take you as far as Anchorhead. You can get transport there to the spaceport at Mod Eisley or wherever you’re going…

BEN
You must do what you feel.

LUKE
Right now I don’t feel too good…
A42. INT. DEATH STAR – PRISON CELL CORRIDOR

The script from the art of star wars isn't actually the 4th draft as it was written. it was taken from one of the later cuts of the films, when the biggs scenes were still in. You'll probably find that the script on IMSDb was copied from the art of star wars. It's pretty obvious when you watch the film that it was not filmed the way it is in the art of star wars script, but was filmed the way the 4th draft of march 15th 1976.

http://starwarz.com/starkiller/star-wars-the-adventures-of-luke-starkiller-revised-fourth-draft/

That...is how making and editing films works.

timdiggerm said:

That...is how making and editing films works.

 Yep, between first drafts, revised drafts, shooting scripts, assembly edits, rough cuts, revised versions of the rough cut, screenings for public reaction before release, etc.

Filmmaking is a long, complicated process. Even more so in the 1970s when things weren't digital yet.

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Just wanted to mention that a little while back I put up a version of ANH:R on the spleen that combines the higher resolution PAL video (slowed to 23.976 fps) with the higher quality NTSC audio. As good as it gets until ANH:R:HD comes out.

Here are the details on ANHRSEHD:

http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/2011/04/09/ars-details/

Short answer, no.

Bingowings said:

AR:SE:HD?

This acronym just gets ruder and more Scottish with each new iteration  :-D

doubleofive said:

Bingowings said:

AR:SE:HD?

This acronym just gets ruder and more Scottish with each new iteration  :-D

I try, Mr. Wings.

Does this mean that his lover is Mr. Redbull?! :o)

I'm sure they'll be more fixes.