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STAR WARS: REBELS (animated tv series) - a general discussion thread — Page 20

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We should be thanking the maker the Stormtroopers aren't merely being stunned. Disney easily could have mandated a 1980's G.I. Joe level of ridiculousness with regards to the battles.

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SilverWook said:

We should be thanking the maker the Stormtroopers aren't merely being stunned. Disney easily could have mandated a 1980's G.I. Joe level of ridiculousness with regards to the battles.

 Very good point, this is a minor miracle in and of itself. Hopefully Ezra will upgrade his catapult to a chain-sword in due course.

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Yes, prominently feature the stupid lightslingshot. That'll just suck the viewers right in.

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The kid shooting troopers dead probably is one thing Disney might be skittish about. Never mind he could probably shoot someone's eyes out with that thing. ;)

I'll be amazed if there are any chopped off limbs in this.

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Well, the show had to start off with some kind of gaff. I think a light sling is better than "Skyguy" and "Artooie." I just hope they ditch it quickly like they did those others. =P

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Hopefully, it'll be in the first episode only, and only in a dream sequence. ;-)

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Having watched the 7 minutes, I'm still ambivalent about it. Not like 7 mins was enough to make me change my mind anyway. But I didn't like TCW in the slightest. And the last remaining ounce of mindless optimism I had reserved for this is still very much in the balance after seeing that. 

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I'm having trouble getting past that boy, Erza, looking like a CGI version of Aladdin.

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Tobar said:

 Dang that kid looks dumb.

Am I the only person who never finds KISS face paint scary?

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I think it's considered more cool than scary.  Ever since Darth Maul became popular.

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The Inquisitor thing does nothing for me (it's like some CW idea that was discarded) Kanan could grow on me but as for the others? An early McQuarrie Chewy drawing bought to life, a female Mandalorian (because Mandalorians are cool, right? No. Boba Fetts cool but whatever) and there's the stupidly named droid and well? a ton of other stuff besides. 

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TheBoost said: Am I the only person who never finds KISS face paint scary?

You're definitely not the only one. Duracell and I are with you. Hopefully the Inquisitor isn't a sign of what the villains of episodes 7-9 will look like.

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*points out once again that, that is just how Pau'ans look, markings included*

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Tobar said:

*points out once again that, that is just how Pau'ans look, markings included*

 a) The fully realized physical make up looks way different than the cartoon.

b) Even if you're born with KISS make-up, it's still KISS make-up.

In fact, Vinnie Vincent was actually born with a severe white/gold facial deformity, and that's why KISS hired him.

That poor man.

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TheBoost said:

Tobar said:

*points out once again that, that is just how Pau'ans look, markings included*

 a) The fully realized physical make up looks way different than the cartoon.

b) Even if you're born with KISS make-up, it's still KISS make-up.

c) If a species is born with KISS make-up, that species should be avoided for villains.

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I didn't really have any reservations, (okay, light slingshot,) but the casual way in which they kill stormtroopers...  Blaster to the face at point blank, hold this bomb, etc. really gives me hope that they aren't going to kiddie this thing up to0 god awfully.

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Now when I first read about the show, my very first thought was you introduce Kanan as a Jedi. And if he in some way is part of an early Rebel Alliance, was there ever consideration that if Jedi helped create the Rebel Alliance, it makes Luke’s discovery as a Jedi less impactful?

I don’t think so. I mean, the interesting thing about it is when you look at Luke, he’s accepted pretty quickly into the Rebellion. Nobody seems to make that big a deal in the movies about the fact that he’s got these strange abilities. You almost wonder, how many other people in the Rebel Alliance even thought about him him as a Jedi? I don’t think there’s a lot of evidence that people did. Maybe you think it is that, but certainly not in the films. I mean, he wears a lightsaber on his belt almost as if he’s someone who found it. I think that’s frankly Luke’s strength is that remember, he doesn’t even say he’s a Jedi until he’s standing before the Emperor and throws his lightsaber away. So I think one of the things we’ve talked about is how there are artifacts and things out there like lightsabers, remnants of this old religion and probably a lot of people assume Luke just found it. In a lot of ways that’s true.

Yeah.

He did find it. From Obi Wan. Obi Wan said “This is your Father’s.” But Luke, I don’t certainly think, goes around telling people that. So all the Jedi or all the Force wielders are kind of hidden now. You know, Kanan breaks his lightsaber a part and wears it out sometimes, but you think it’s more like a Droid caller or something like that. You don’t think it’s a lightsaber. Because as soon Obi Wan turns his lightsaber on in the Cantina, there are people reporting it like “Yeah, there’s a bounty on these guys.” So I think it’s just all about how we reveal Kanan. It’s very different from Luke.

I mean, on a basic level at this point he’s so much better trained than Luke could ever be. It’s just an interesting take on what are all these other people that have the Force doing? And how do we not have that interfere with the blinding light, the New Hope that Luke Skywalker becomes? Luke’s mission in the Force is very specific. Learn to be selfless. Selfless enough to save your Father. To realize that you can forgive and redeem. And that’s a bit different than where we’re going with Ezra and Kanan for sure.

Okay cool. Now in Star Wars lore, Obi Wan says Darth Vader hunted down the Jedi. But you guys have introduced another villain, The Inquisitor. Why introduce a whole new character to do the same thing? Especially when we already have a Sith Lord apprentice thing with Vader and the Emperor. Now you add a third character into the mix. Talk about why and how it’s gonna work.

I think for me the main idea is that, again, when Obi Wan’s saying these things to Luke, he’s trying to get them explained. And he knows it’s gonna come from Vader. And it’s very specific to Luke. And that’s his destiny. The Inquisitor, is he even around at that point? Who knows?

Sure.

But it was reasonable to believe that, looking at a galaxy, there were 10,000 Jedi in The Clone Wars. That number’s been diminished. How do you find them? Where do you find them? I’m sure Vader is involved in hunting down Jedi all the time. I’m sure that right after the Clone War, when the remnants are very visible and the Jedi are all trying to figure out what happened, that he was luring them into traps and wiping them out several at a time.

At the point we are, so many years later, they are so few and far between that I don’t think he would follow up every lead. Because one of the things that’s muddled the whole operation, in my mind, is kids being born that can use the Force. The Emperor and Vader don’t really want them around either. But they’re so unnotable, you needed a group of hunters, attack dogs. And so we have an Inquisitor that goes out and hunts these guys down. Now if he was to hunt a guy down, let’s say he’s somewhere on Tatooine and he runs into Obi Wan Kenobi, probably the Inquisitor won’t survive that. But if he did, he would call Vader up and go “You better get out here.”

He’s a Jedi Master. This isn’t nobody.

This is a Master. This is somebody significant, right. So I have to believe that, as it went along, Vader got entrusted with more and more important missions, hunting down those stolen data plans. Stuff like that. And the Inquisitor is left to be this kind of hunting dog. He finds you, he analyzes you, even by fighting against them, saber to saber, he’s learning about you. Who taught you, where you came from, how old you are. Sometimes what your name is. Because they have all the records and he’s meticulously studied them. So, you know, he can break down pretty quickly who Kanan is just by fighting him in a lightsaber fight.

Full interview here.

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darklordoftech said:

c) If a species is born with KISS make-up, that species should be avoided for villains.

Or they could just wear paper bags over their heads. Either would work. 

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But it was reasonable to believe that, looking at a galaxy, there were 10,000 Jedi in The Clone Wars. That number’s been diminished.

Good God, they're still running with this absurdly low number? Already, I'm disappointed with the new canon.

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I liked the preview, I think they have changed their direction of storytelling, I tried quite a few times on the recommendation of different forums The Clone Wars cartoon, but I couldn't get into it, I found it uninteresting and dull,....It couldn't hold my attention,.....but the clip of the Rebels toon had me hooked....and I'm looking forward to how it plays out

Dave Filoni tells us how it's different working with Kathy & Disney:

"It’s different than it was before in that when we worked with George, we were all at Skywalker Ranch. The animation division was almost separate within Lucasfilm. But Kathy [Kennedy, President of Lucasfilm] has brought us down to the Presidio now, so we work right where ILM is and we’re right where all the Star Wars films are gonna be made. We’re all on the same floor. And, you know, I think that gives a better community now. You know, it’s kind of like without George, we’re all banding together. Lucasfilm Story Group, Kathy Kennedy, the directors of all the new films, we all get together and talk about Star Wars and what’s gonna be best for it. So I’m very proud and I feel the responsibility of being this first thing out.

And in a lot of ways that’s why this show is kind of just so unapologetically classic in a Star Wars sense ’cause we all want the fans to feel that this going to be off on the right foot. You’re gonna recognize the music. You’re gonna recognize the look of things. I think there’s gonna be plenty of time in the future to get more aggressively different and exciting and develop new things in Star Wars you’ve never seen. But now is the time of just saying like “Hey guys, this is gonna be a great era for you, just buckle up and get ready.” And that’s what I want."

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.....encouraging
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The clip i saw was dumb and unoriginal. Could have been lifted straight out of Return of the Jedi . 

Now i know they are clips and not finished episodes so i will wait to review or judge the show, but so far i am not sold on the series.

Anyway the bizarre mash up of Aladdin and Return of the Jedi cannot be the entire show, i hope.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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skyjedi2005 said:

The clip i saw was dumb and unoriginal. Could have been lifted straight out of Return of the Jedi .

 Is that a bad thing?