STAR WARS: REBELS (animated tv series) - a general discussion thread — Page 19

darklordoftech said:

Kanan's master is someone who turned to the dark side in the legends EU. Take that, EU!

Eh? Who's his master?

Well, that interview made me worried not only about Rebels but also about the future of the entire franchise.

New /Film interview:

/Film: Without spoilers, can we safely say this band of characters is beginning of a growing thing that’ll lead to Princess Leia and the creation of the Death Star? Is this the beginning of the snowball effect?

Dave Filoni: I think the way to look at it, Simon said this beautifully. He described the American Revolution as if this was a show that was about five guys that were locked up in a farmhouse somewhere fighting against the local British military and without any real knowledge of the larger political movements or what’s going on. I think that that’s really how you look at the truth of it with the Rebels. How do you get all these people together? We’re looking at one little small group that’s trying to stand on their own and how does that hook up to what you know is a rebel alliance in A New Hope?  I think that’s one of the things that we’re gonna reveal as this story moves forward.

Although I don't care for the look of this show, this is a good way to approach prequel writing in general. I was using this method to construct a prequel storyline at one point. It allows for the audience to care about the characters while understanding that history as a whole cannot be changed by them. That was a big problem with the Lucas Prequels, they thought galactically instead of locally. So props to Filoni on this.

Harmy said:

Well, that interview made me worried not only about Rebels but also about the future of the entire franchise.

Tobar said:

And why is that, pray tell?

A) They say that the Rebels may be introducing characters, whom we will meet in the new film episodes and it will be a whole intertwined universe - I don't like this idea much, because I'm beginning to have quite high hopes for the new movies but so far, I like Rebels less and less with every clip I see from it - it reminds me of those Saturday morning cartoons, which I used to like as a little kid (who also loved the Phantom Menace) but when I see them today, they are super cheesy and lame. I wasn't a huge fan of TCW but I never got that feeling of a cheap 80s or 90s cartoon from it.

B) They make a big deal about not wanting to shrink the universe, yet, just in the few clips released so far, we've already seen cameos of Obi-Wan, 3P0 and R2.

C) "I love origins stories of characters that you think you know everything about and then you learn the real story..." Does he mean like Obi-Wan, Darth Vader or Boba Fett? Urgh...

D) It seems to indicate them being seriously misguided, if they think that the show has the look of McQuarrie paintings - to me, it looks like cheap digital animation, about 15 years behind the current development, with a half-arsed attempt to imitate the Disney drawing style for the character design. TCW, while it was also not up to scratch with the latest digital animation tech, probably because the budget wouldn't allow it, made the best of the bad situation and had a unique, brush-painting like style to the textures, which they say they have here too, even supposedly imitating McQuarrie's brush techniques, but I see no trace of it in the clips they released so far. It would be so beautiful, if they actually went with (ideally 2D) animation, which would truly look like McQuarrie paintings brought to life, but alas, that is not what we seem to be getting here.

E) Apparently the favorite SW movie of the current generation of Lucasfilm employees is TPM, because "that's the one they had as kids..." Really? Really? :-(

F) The lightsabers - this could technically fall under D but I think it's worth mentioning separately - they say lightsabers are designed to look like in the original SW. Well, from what I've seen, they really don't. They maybe share some similarities with the ugly recomposited sabres from the SE, like the blade edges being too sharp and the colored-glow edges being way too sharp, instead of diffused, like in the original and the blades are way too thin - they say that this is on purpose to make the look more like Ep. IV but the sabers in SW are nowhere near this thin - not even in the SE. Plus the lightsaber fighting style seems to again be the kind of acrobatic jumping around, like in the prequels.

Tobar said:

Here's a fantastic interview with two of the executive producers on Rebels, Dave Filoni and Simon Kinberg.

Highly recommend it to anyone who still has reservations about the show.

Rebels character to make cameo in EpisodeVII, well that's the new movie ruined then :-(

All the Lightsaber talk was nice though.

emanswfan said:

First look at Rebels pilot.

http://youtu.be/jZn_TrwbPN8

Translation = "Disney would like to extend a big middle finger to all the SW fans in the UK" :-(

It works for me.

I have to admit it actually wasn't bad.

EDIT:
Here you are.

Wow. I have to say I was starting to have my own reservations about the show from the last few clips, but I was glued to the screen for that long preview. The music was a bit off, sure, but there was just something that felt Star Wars about the whole thing. I was grinning at the screen, which was something I rarely did on The Clone Wars, which I love dearly.

I think it was the whole spectacle. The McQuarrie/Johnston designs, the movement of the characters, the sounds (holy cow hearing all the old blasters and ships and stormtrooper voices again was incredible), I dug the Force interlude and the fact that Ezra didn't understand the idea of it to me felt very Luke-in-ANH to me, the fact that the characters didn't say anything too stupid and actually all came off as pretty cool, and when was the last time you saw seven minutes of Star Wars footage from a new series that didn't have a lightsaber in it? I know they'll show up, sure, but this preview was just good old-fashioned Star Wars action.

Harmy said:

EDIT:
Here you are.

 Wow thanks! Harmy > Disney

The soundmix was weak and sounded incomplete, the animation was amateur and badly executed but damn it had me at the awesome Speeder Bike chase!

btw So Disney are making a kids show where the heroes are terrorists then? ;-)

DuracellEnergizer said:

So Ezra's basically a younger version of Aladdin.

I wonder why I failed to notice that before; the facial features of the two characters are almost identical.

You hit the nail on the head right there and being Disney they can't sue themselves.

SilverWook said:

So long as they don't give him a Kowakian monkey-lizard as a side kick. ;)

I think Imperial officers as petty bullies in uniform is going to get old pretty fast though.

I'll chalk that up to them being backwater officers. For now.

Looks pretty good. I wont complain about some of the more kid friendly aspects since I'm a grown man that's going to be watching a kids cartoon. I'll get over it.