oh_riginal said:
regularjoe said:
I'm really glad to hear that the next version has the repaired version of the scene. One is able argue either way for the flow of the structure of the scene based on how it is played out, for me the issue is continuity. As a twelve year old kid I was noticing that C3PO's behavior was not consistent throughout the scene and it has always been a speed bump watching the scene.
My main issue with the scene is how it makes Obi Wan appear in his intentions.
In the theatrical cut, Obi Wan plays catch up with Luke before checking out the message from Leia. In Ady's version (which restores the edit to how it was scripted), Obi Wan plays the message first, then butters Luke up with the intention to talk him into joining him.
To me, this makes it seem that his small talk with Luke is manipulative, and that he only wants to hustle Luke into helping him, if that makes sense.
In the theatrical cut, with the small talk coming first, it makes it feel more like Obi Wan is genuinely interested in catching up with Luke before getting to business with R2-D2. To me, this makes Obi Wan seem like a true friend to Luke, since he had no ulterior motive to make him want to have a friendly talk.
I don't know if the way I'm explaining it makes sense, as I've tried to tell others why I prefer the theatrical edit to Ady's in this one instance, but it's rare that anyone seems to agree with me on my reasons.
If I had Adywan's talents, I would rather attempt to fix the continuity of C-3PO without changing the edit of the scene, rather than change it back to the script version. Unfortunately, that is not within my skills as an editor.
Okay, just wanted to throw in my two cents on this topic. Thanks for reading.
I think you've got Obi-Wans motivations right.
But he isn't Lukes old friend. He's been waiting to get Luke involved since his birth. That's why he's hiding on Tatooine. So the way Ady has the scene play out makes perfect sense to me.
Obi-Wan is a bit manipulative. That's why Luke isn't sure who to trust by the end of ESB. Luke even calls Obi-Wan out on it in ROTJ.