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I wonder what drugs people have to take to come up with crossover ideas like this.

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Drugs? It's more like "let's take these two things from the 60's who have successful reboots and smash them together." See also: the Ghostbusters/Ninja Turtles crossover comic that is also coming soon.

I can't wait for either.

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Don't forget the TNG/Doctor Who crossover they did that some how worked.

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Figures that this thing with the Abrams movies would happen after I drove to five fucking Targets to find the exclusive disc. Maybe now Paramount will actuall remaster the first ten films properly now they they've milked he Abrams movies all they possibly can, but I doubt it. 

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death

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Yeah there is a reason I buy all my Star Trek discs used.  Compared to other shows like Doctor Who they are pretty bare bones in the extras department,the restoration is subpar,and they are over priced.

if an out fit like the Doctor Who restoration team can restore a 50 year you episode of the TV show so that it looks like it was shot yesterday and has the best version of any given scene on the disc you would think a major studio like Paramount could do a proper restoration just on a 30 year old film and release the directors cut as an option on Bluray.

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Fellow Trekkies, I've got a question - and I REALLY hope I didn't ask it on this forum a few years ago (I know I asked it on SOME forum :-) )

I am planning to start re-watching Star Trek from scratch.

I do have a chronological list of all episodes and movies, all from ENT, TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY and the movies of course. Now I want more.

I want to add more stuff to the chronological list

- novels

- comic books

- computer games

The only Star Trek related novels I read were the novelizations of the movies and a merge of a couple of TOS episodes. However I KNOW that there are some novels which are describing the events after Enterprise, or the adventures of Captain Riker's ship, or there are some Khan stories ... If I remember correctly there were novels about the Romulan war?

Comic books - the ONLY Trek comic books I read are the prequels to JJ's movies - and those are MUCH better than the JJ movies :-) But there are some 50 years of comic books going on ... I forgot - I read also Year Four from D.C.Fontana and I LOVED it, unfortunately it ended with an open ending.

Computer games - I played the prequel to Into Darkness, and the 25th anniversary game many years ago. Only now thanks to YouTube I found games like Klingon Academy and Starfleet Academy and I was shocked that these games feature actually "short movies" with the original cast members. Are there more of those?

Well I know I'm talking about 50 years of comic books and novels, I'm sure that there are MANY different books, and I'm pretty sure many of them will contradict each other. I'm not really interested in reading ALL of them, just stories, which are considered "canon" - at least by the fans. Stories, which somehow expand the "universe" of Star Trek - stuff like the comic book series Year Four, which is basically year 4 of TOS. Or the novels which take place after Enterprise. Or the "Shatnerverse" novels - wherever they belong. 

The same with video games - I don't want to play EVERYTHING - I'm pretty sure that most of the games wouldn't even run on Windows 8, I just want to play games which somehow "expand the timeline" - I hope at least somebody understands what I'm trying to say :-) Fine examples are Klingon Academy which explains why Chang has an eye patch in Star Trek 6, or the Star Trek game which takes place between JJTrek09 and Into Darkness.

If somebody understood what am trying to achieve, could you guys give me a hint which video games/novels/comic books are "recommended" for a guy who wants an "ultimate chronological Trek experience"? Also on which place do they belong on the timeline?

Thanks

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This is a tall order. You're right in saying they will contradict each other.

This is true, there is no canon, and until recently the novels were mostly stand alone. There are some classic novels that don't fit in to later canon that you should probably read ("Spock's World" and so forth), but a chronological list of every media? I don't think it would be very pretty.

I've not read a ton of the novels. Personally, I like/own the Crucible series by David R. George III. Taking only the shows and movies as canon, he explores how the events of "City on the Edge of Forever" affected each of the Big Three. Spock's is a pretty straightforward story, while McCoy's is mostly told from the alternate reality where the Nazi's win WW2. Kirk's is kind of weird, mostly him reliving experiences in the Nexus if I remember correctly.

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pittrek said:

Fellow Trekkies, I've got a question - and I REALLY hope I didn't ask it on this forum a few years ago (I know I asked it on SOME forum :-) )

I am planning to start re-watching Star Trek from scratch.

I do have a chronological list of all episodes and movies, all from ENT, TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY and the movies of course. Now I want more.

I want to add more stuff to the chronological list

- novels

- comic books

- computer games

The only Star Trek related novels I read were the novelizations of the movies and a merge of a couple of TOS episodes. However I KNOW that there are some novels which are describing the events after Enterprise, or the adventures of Captain Riker's ship, or there are some Khan stories ... If I remember correctly there were novels about the Romulan war?

Comic books - the ONLY Trek comic books I read are the prequels to JJ's movies - and those are MUCH better than the JJ movies :-) But there are some 50 years of comic books going on ... I forgot - I read also Year Four from D.C.Fontana and I LOVED it, unfortunately it ended with an open ending.

Computer games - I played the prequel to Into Darkness, and the 25th anniversary game many years ago. Only now thanks to YouTube I found games like Klingon Academy and Starfleet Academy and I was shocked that these games feature actually "short movies" with the original cast members. Are there more of those?

Well I know I'm talking about 50 years of comic books and novels, I'm sure that there are MANY different books, and I'm pretty sure many of them will contradict each other. I'm not really interested in reading ALL of them, just stories, which are considered "canon" - at least by the fans. Stories, which somehow expand the "universe" of Star Trek - stuff like the comic book series Year Four, which is basically year 4 of TOS. Or the novels which take place after Enterprise. Or the "Shatnerverse" novels - wherever they belong. 

The same with video games - I don't want to play EVERYTHING - I'm pretty sure that most of the games wouldn't even run on Windows 8, I just want to play games which somehow "expand the timeline" - I hope at least somebody understands what I'm trying to say :-) Fine examples are Klingon Academy which explains why Chang has an eye patch in Star Trek 6, or the Star Trek game which takes place between JJTrek09 and Into Darkness.

If somebody understood what am trying to achieve, could you guys give me a hint which video games/novels/comic books are "recommended" for a guy who wants an "ultimate chronological Trek experience"? Also on which place do they belong on the timeline?

Thanks

 Okay. Done: http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Memory_Beta_Chronology

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Well, I knew somebody has to be as crazy as me :-) Thanks for the list, I will be happy if I read 10% of the books :-)

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Okay I just finished watching A Fistful of Datas and is it just me or is Worf the Worst.Father.Ever. 

Now his son has hardly spent any time with him since he saw his mother's bloody corps a couple years ago and it's clear he is desperate for any kind of attention from his father. Yet Worf has to be ordered by Picard to spend any time with him and when he does he seems to react to Alexander with a mixture of contempt and barely concealed rage and then he refuses to enter into the spirit of the program and does his best to make his son feel foolish for watching it.  He makes it pretty clear he would rather be anywhere else then spending time with him.  He acts like he is Picard with Weasly but the big difference is that Alexander is much younger,his son,and has had a tramatic life.  I have to say in this episode and the one Alexander comes on board where Worf also refuses to spend time with him unless ordered by Picard Worf comes off as the most uncaring father you could have.  The only thing he has really done is force the kid to look at his mother's freshly murdered corps,is it any wonder this kid had issues when he turned up on DS9.

What was wrong with Worf in these episode,they really don't paint him in a good light.

I have to wonder why the writers added Alexander to the cast any way.  I mean where they trying to give us a reason to hate worf?

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I pretty much hate Worf, yet I actually enjoyed his role in "A Fistful of Datas". Go figure.

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That is odd,most people I know like Worf and hate this episode.

I think the biggest problem this episode has is that it is another Holideck breakdown episode and it takes almost 20 minutes for the holideck to breakdown.  Look we know from the first time it is mentioned in the episode that it is going to break down and I don't think anyone cares why it breaks down so we really don't need twenty minutes of set up for the break down.  This is one of those episodes that I guess isn't bad but because it is so slow paced and we know where it is going it puts me to sleep every time I try to watch it.

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I think they were trying to pay homage to the movie Westworld, which pretty much is the template for every holodeck malfunction episode ever.

Love or hate the episode, this shot of the big D flying off into the sunset at the end is a beauty. (I imagine someone had to plead to get this new shot done instead of using stock footage.) Almost more majestic than the final shot of her in All Good Things.

Where were you in '77?

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Yeah I think that may be the best special effects shot in TV history.  heck it looks better then most films made today.

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Any idea on the source of that photo?  I see Gene in the back, but not sure if that's Majel sitting in Riker's seat.

I presume this was one of those occasions where foreign dignitaries or other bigwigs visited the set. As Ronald Reagan once paid TNG a visit, you'd think someone would snapped a photo of him sitting on the bridge.

Where were you in '77?

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Just found video of Kirstie Alley (Saavik) on Match Game in 1979.

http://youtu.be/B-pEpO39ve4

This was not her first appearance on television, as she had done a bit part on an episode of Quark  in 1978.

“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison

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Ah, Elite Force. I really need to reinstall that. Even more fun with all the mods and custom levels I had downloaded.

BTW, shooting your fellow crewmembers is a fast ticket to the Brig without cheat codes. It's more fun to randomly spawn Borg and let them go to town. ;)

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TV's Frink said:

You missed.

 That was my reaching for the capture key while he was dying.

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Okay I think this says everything about Janeway and Chakotay's relationship. I killed Janeway and this is all I got,a slap on the wrist.