Well, I would assume so. Speaking of the Holiday Special, I recall something about how Lucas allowed a documentary filmmaker to have access to the original copy of the Holiday Special back in '04. If the Holiday Special (something I can assure you Lucas hated more than the OOT) was still in watchable condition after 25 years, I'm sure the original parts of the negative cut out for the SE are in a bit better condition then some people may think.
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I did read about Disney and Lucasfilms working out a deal with 20th Century Fox to get the original theatrical versions released on HD Blu-Ray and DVD. Knowing how Disney promotes their films, they may very well have them out in time for the release of Episode 7.
moviefreakedmind said:
Well, I would assume so. Speaking of the Holiday Special, I recall something about how Lucas allowed a documentary filmmaker to have access to the original copy of the Holiday Special back in '04. If the Holiday Special (something I can assure you Lucas hated more than the OOT) was still in watchable condition after 25 years, I'm sure the original parts of the negative cut out for the SE are in a bit better condition then some people may think.
I take it the Holiday Special was shot on film, then?
unamochilla2 said:
moviefreakedmind said:
Well, I would assume so. Speaking of the Holiday Special, I recall something about how Lucas allowed a documentary filmmaker to have access to the original copy of the Holiday Special back in '04. If the Holiday Special (something I can assure you Lucas hated more than the OOT) was still in watchable condition after 25 years, I'm sure the original parts of the negative cut out for the SE are in a bit better condition then some people may think.
I take it the Holiday Special was shot on film, then?
Yes, I would assume so.
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G E Predator said:
I did read about Disney and Lucasfilms working out a deal with 20th Century Fox to get the original theatrical versions released on HD Blu-Ray and DVD. Knowing how Disney promotes their films, they may very well have them out in time for the release of Episode 7.
When did you read this, do you have a link to it? Was it just speculation, or was there some kind of inside information?
gizzy2000 said:
G E Predator said:
I did read about Disney and Lucasfilms working out a deal with 20th Century Fox to get the original theatrical versions released on HD Blu-Ray and DVD. Knowing how Disney promotes their films, they may very well have them out in time for the release of Episode 7.
When did you read this, do you have a link to it? Was it just speculation, or was there some kind of inside information?
About a few weeks ago. At the time, I found it, I was searching for a download link for Star Wars De-specialized Edition(mission accomplished BTW)
At this point, it's simply a rumor but it's highly plausible.
unamochilla2 said:
moviefreakedmind said:
Well, I would assume so. Speaking of the Holiday Special, I recall something about how Lucas allowed a documentary filmmaker to have access to the original copy of the Holiday Special back in '04. If the Holiday Special (something I can assure you Lucas hated more than the OOT) was still in watchable condition after 25 years, I'm sure the original parts of the negative cut out for the SE are in a bit better condition then some people may think.
I take it the Holiday Special was shot on film, then?
No it was shot on tape. The animated cartoon might exist in film somewhere though.
G E Predator said:
gizzy2000 said:
G E Predator said:
I did read about Disney and Lucasfilms working out a deal with 20th Century Fox to get the original theatrical versions released on HD Blu-Ray and DVD. Knowing how Disney promotes their films, they may very well have them out in time for the release of Episode 7.
When did you read this, do you have a link to it? Was it just speculation, or was there some kind of inside information?
About a few weeks ago. At the time, I found it, I was searching for a download link for Star Wars De-specialized Edition(mission accomplished BTW)
http://wegotthiscovered.com/blu-ray/theatrical-cuts-original-star-wars-trilogy-possibly-heading-bluray/#!btq9Ee
At this point, it's simply a rumor but it's highly plausible.
I hope you're right.
The Person in Question
Following down that rabbit hole to the original source of the rumor, it sounds very dubious. They say they "intercepted" an internal email but don't actually share it or provide any kind of details.
And then the second half of the article dives straight into fantasy with the notion that the prequels could be deemed Legends and scrapped. As much as I personally would love that, there's not a snowballs chance in hades of it ever happening.
moviefreakedmind said:
G E Predator said:
gizzy2000 said:
G E Predator said:
I did read about Disney and Lucasfilms working out a deal with 20th Century Fox to get the original theatrical versions released on HD Blu-Ray and DVD. Knowing how Disney promotes their films, they may very well have them out in time for the release of Episode 7.
When did you read this, do you have a link to it? Was it just speculation, or was there some kind of inside information?
About a few weeks ago. At the time, I found it, I was searching for a download link for Star Wars De-specialized Edition(mission accomplished BTW)
http://wegotthiscovered.com/blu-ray/theatrical-cuts-original-star-wars-trilogy-possibly-heading-bluray/#!btq9Ee
At this point, it's simply a rumor but it's highly plausible.
I hope you're right.
Well, there is still plenty of hope for an OUT release. This thread is just speculation. All we know is that a 4K restoration happened around the time when Disney bought LFL, and that the light-sabers in the RMW video look like the '04 light-sabers. Other than that, we know nothing except that RMW removed all references to Star Wars in 4K from their website, and apparently Disney acknowledges the existence of the unaltered versions of the films.
Tobar said:
And then the second half of the article dives straight into fantasy with the notion that the prequels could be deemed Legends and scrapped. As much as I personally would love that, there's not a snowballs chance in hades of it ever happening.
Agreed, Disney will NEVER officially scrap the prequels, they may ignore them and let them be forgotten, but there's no way they'll say they aren't canon anymore. Thats what makes that bleeding cool rumor difficult for me to believe on any level. I still think that the idea of Disney refusing to ever release the OUT is completely unlikely though, I have hope we'll see an official release of that eventually.
Tobar said:
the second half of the article dives straight into fantasy with the notion that the prequels could be deemed Legends and scrapped. As much as I personally would love that, there's not a snowballs chance in hades of it ever happening.
What you are forgetting is that Disney bought this property to suck every last penny out of it. The PT will be remade/rebooted (and in all likelyhood so will the OT) It's just a question of when really (I'm not saying the when will be anytime soon though).
After the ST makes more money than god they only have two ways to go for another trilogy. Forwards or backwards? Episode X, or Episode I? In the new Disney era anything can and will happen. In the Lucas era he did/didn't do things for his own satisfaction, now there is only money dictating the choices.
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Ryan McAvoy said:
Tobar said:
the second half of the article dives straight into fantasy with the notion that the prequels could be deemed Legends and scrapped. As much as I personally would love that, there's not a snowballs chance in hades of it ever happening.What you are forgetting is that Disney bought this property to suck every last penny out of it. The PT will be remade/rebooted (and in all likelyhood so will the OT) It's just a question of when really (I'm not saying the when will be anytime soon though).
After the ST makes more money than god they only have two ways to go for another trilogy. Forwards or backwards? Episode X, or Episode I?
I could see them remaking the PT because nobody really cares about those movies, I've seen some die hard PT fans on the internet, but I've never met a single person in the real world (teen or adult) who has said that the prequels are better than the originals. However, I don't think they'd ever directly remake the OT because Star Wars and Empire are just too beloved of classics to be remade. I could picture them going the "Oz the Great and Powerful" route and making a lame tie in thing like that, but never a direct remake where Luke leaves Tatoine with Han and Obi-Wan and then gets trapped on the Death Star ect. ect., because I think they know that remaking a classic like that is a bad move. IF (that's a big if) the Bleeding Cool email was from someone who works at LFL or Disney, they may have heard talk of releasing the OUT (which is a believable move I could see Disney making), and they may have also heard that Disney wants to stay away from the prequels and phase out that era, and the employee writing the email may have misunderstood and took that as meaning that the PT was going to be completely retcon. That's just my take on the rumor.
As long as TCW is considered canon, I don't see the PT being rebooted. Decanonized or rendered quasi-canon, yes, but completely tossed out and replaced? I can't see it happening.
I don't think in a million years they'll de-canon, remake or amend the prequels - especially as they have a ton of decent supporting material with the Clone Wars (already declared canon).
They're flawed yes - but I would actually hate for Disney to "Special Edition" the prequels as what's good for the goose is what's good for the gander - we can't have it both ways and demand theatrical editions of one series and amend another.
As per a previous page, opinions toward the prequels would probably soften anyway were the OUT to be released.
They would for me anyway!
GlastoEls said:
I would actually hate for Disney to "Special Edition" the prequels as what's good for the goose is what's good for the gander - we can't have it both ways and demand theatrical editions of one series and amend another.
Nobody here thinks that (As far as I'm aware).
We want SE and original cuts of both trilogies. At the moment we've got pretty much none of both. As long as the original PT is still available, then nobody is gonna have a problem with Disney creating a bonus alternate PT. It's if Disney decided to try and eradicate the PT from the face existance and try to make it impossible for anybody to watch it that people here would object.
Unless I'm mistaken?
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I could see Disney doing some kind of prequel remake after the ST. I have no fear that Disney will pull a George Lucas and try to erase things from film history. If they remake them the originals will still be available. Also, I can guarantee that Disney won't do anymore SE changes to the prequels or the OT. I could MAYBE see them making CGI Jabba look less horrible, and I also wouldn't be surprised if the hated things like Han shooting second and Vader's no get cut from the next release as well. Honestly though, if they're going to bother with that, they'd probably just release the OUT alongside the SE and call it good.
The Person in Question
There are two real options and neither involve remaking either of the trilogies. From here on out Lucasfilm will either continue with the episodes or after IX they will shift to standalones only. They will NEVER remake ANY of the previous films. It will NEVER happen. The culture there of canon and continuity would never allow it.
Does anyone here think that Disney will never release the OUT?
^Think so? No. Fear so? Yes.
DuracellEnergizer said:
^Think so? No. Fear so? Yes.
Well, I think we all have that fear left over from when Lucas was in charge. No matter which way I think about the situation I absolutely can't see any reason for Disney to refuse to release the OOT. I think we've all been permanently scarred for life by George Lucas's treatment of the OT. I'm trying to remain cautiously optimistic as far as a Disney OUT release goes though, and if we're lucky, they'll release it before Episode VII... Fingers crossed
I don't even understand why someone would want to "de-canonize" the PT or the Clone Wars. It would just add more mess to the whole thing in the mind of the audience. It would look like they do not know what they're doing. They'd de-canonize some of the movies of the series to remove some concepts that some fans don't like so they could...what? It does not make any sens. Not only from a marketing point of view but also from a storytelling point of view. You can't tell the audience a tale, then, when you arrive to some chapters, sundenly say "wait, no, forget about those early chapters I told you before. What I really wanted to tell you is THIS." It would look so unprofessional... So bad. It would be WAY worse than keeping the PT the way they are and find good stories to tell anyway. THAT would look professional, and maybe working with some concepts that you don't like much can lead to some creativity.
TMBTM said:
I don't even understand why someone would want to "de-canonize" the PT or the Clone Wars. It would just add more mess to the whole thing in the mind of the audience. It would look like they do not know what they're doing. They'd de-canonize some of the movies of the series to remove some concepts that some fans don't like so they could...what? It does not make any sens. Not only from a marketing point of view but also from a storytelling point of view. You can't tell the audience a tale, then, when you arrive to some chapters, sundenly say "wait, no, forget about those early chapters I told you before. What I really wanted to tell you is THIS." It would look so unprofessional... So bad. It would be WAY worse than keeping the PT the way they are and find good stories to tell anyway. THAT would look professional, and maybe working with some concepts that you don't like much can lead to some creativity.
Well, if they're working based on looking professional then they could prove that by releasing the OUT as well. I'd take back every bad thing i've ever said about the PT if the OUT were made available.
I could easily live with the PT being canon as long as every era outside of it pretends it doesn't exist. Hopefully that'll be the case in the near future.
For everyone wondering whether or not the OUT will EVER be released, we'll know once they release their next blu ray release of the OT. If the OUT is not included, then they're surely going to be asked in interviews, and if they say something like, "those aren't the original vision for the films," or, "those aren't the official versions," then we'll know for sure that we'll never see them released again. If they say, "We're exploring restoration options," or, "the project could take a while," then that means they'll consider it and probably release it eventually. Finally, if it is included (which I honestly think it will be), then there's nothing to worry about.
The Person in Question