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Good point about Netflix and 4k. I hadn't even thought of that. They were making a big deal about how you can stream House of Cards in 4k with the right equipment, even though that's 4k at bitrates below even blu-ray, but I digress.

The Spike tv deal expires this year, if I'm not mistaken, so the timing of this would make even more sense.

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Fang Zei said:

The Spike tv deal expires this year

When?

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Yawn. I wasn't expecting a real answer, but I figured I'd send 'em a title request anyway. Clearly the same e-mail they send everyone who asks for a specific movie

Their response:

"Hello Robby,


Thank you for your email. We value your interest in Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment!

The Star Wars (unaltered) are currently unavailable and no re-release date has been set. We are happy to share your movie request with the rest of our team. Your feedback helps us build a better experience for all of our guests and it is truly appreciated! 

To find a list of our upcoming releases, and those currently available to enjoy, please visit us online atwww.disneydvd.com.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to reply to this email. You may also contact us at 1-800-723-4763 (US)/1-888-877-2843 (Canada) Monday 9:30-7:30 and Tuesday through Friday 9:30-6:30 CST.

Thank You"

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AntcuFaalb said:

Fang Zei said:

The Spike tv deal expires this year

When?

It was a six-year deal and the first airing was Spring of 2008, so it might've already expired for all we know.

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gizzy2000 said:

Yawn. I wasn't expecting a real answer, but I figured I'd send 'em a title request anyway. Clearly the same e-mail they send everyone who asks for a specific movie

Their response:

"Hello Robby,


Thank you for your email. We value your interest in Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment!

The Star Wars (unaltered) are currently unavailable and no re-release date has been set. We are happy to share your movie request with the rest of our team. Your feedback helps us build a better experience for all of our guests and it is truly appreciated! 

To find a list of our upcoming releases, and those currently available to enjoy, please visit us online atwww.disneydvd.com.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to reply to this email. You may also contact us at 1-800-723-4763 (US)/1-888-877-2843 (Canada) Monday 9:30-7:30 and Tuesday through Friday 9:30-6:30 CST.

Thank You"

 I like how they call it "The" Star Wars.

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Beatleboy99 said:

gizzy2000 said:

Yawn. I wasn't expecting a real answer, but I figured I'd send 'em a title request anyway. Clearly the same e-mail they send everyone who asks for a specific movie

Their response:

"Hello Robby,


Thank you for your email. We value your interest in Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment!

The Star Wars (unaltered) are currently unavailable and no re-release date has been set. We are happy to share your movie request with the rest of our team. Your feedback helps us build a better experience for all of our guests and it is truly appreciated! 

To find a list of our upcoming releases, and those currently available to enjoy, please visit us online atwww.disneydvd.com.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to reply to this email. You may also contact us at 1-800-723-4763 (US)/1-888-877-2843 (Canada) Monday 9:30-7:30 and Tuesday through Friday 9:30-6:30 CST.

Thank You"

 I like how they call it "The" Star Wars.

 If it's some kind of automated response then "The Star Wars" may have just been what it was able to gather from my email. Strange that they put unaltered in parenthesis though since I'm pretty sure I referred to the films as the "original versions" and then specifically explained, "the versions before the 1997 special editions"; I don't think I used the word unaltered in the email, but i don't know

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Well atleast they note a difference between the SE OT and the OUT.  I'd hate a "it's already available" sort of response.

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emanswfan said:

Well atleast they note a difference between the SE OT and the OUT.  I'd hate a "it's already available" sort of response.

I agree. I think this is a good (albeit minor) step forward.

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I also think that if there was something that was preventing them from ever releasing the OUT (contractual or not) we'd have heard by now. Also, if they truly will not ever consider releasing the OUT then I think they may have said something like, "Hello Robby, the current versions of Star Wars are the official versions bla bla bla..." or something along those lines.

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gizzy2000 said:

I also think that if there was something that was preventing them from ever releasing the OUT (contractual or not) we'd have heard by now. Also, if they truly will not ever consider releasing the OUT then I think they may have said something like, "Hello Robby, the current versions of Star Wars are the official versions bla bla bla..." or something along those lines.

 I don't think Disney is the right place to be contacting about Star Wars on home video. 20th Century Fox owns distribution rights so they're probably the ones to ask, especially since an OUT (or any OT/PT release for that matter) has to be through them in the next few years. I guess Lucasfilm specifically (even though they're owned by Disney) would be appropriate to ask about such a thing too. Also, saying there's currently no release date set  doesn't mean anything because they could still be working on it. I think we'll just have to wait and see, because even if they are planning on an OUT release, they won't tell us until a time they've deemed appropriate to announce it.

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Actually, that's encouraging wording.  By refering to it as "unaltered", that implies that they agree that there is an "altered" and an "unaltered" version.  Whereas GL was emphatic that there is only one version, and the old cuts are just incomplete early releases.

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Yeah, it is more positive than not.  They acknowledge the difference between Star Wars versions and don't specifically say no such effort is going on, just the truthful statement that there is no re-release date (in short, they're not forcing whomever responded to tow a hostile, negative corporate line against the OOT).  And no, Fox would not be the right place to ask, as they would never spend the money to restore a property that will be handed off in a few years, at this point it is up to Disney/Lucasfilm to fit the bill for any new transfers and then tell Fox how high to jump.

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I think it translates roughly as "we aren't restoring those versions."

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I doubt they would prematurely say there are plans to release the UOT in an e-mail reply before an official announcement was made.  I've sent Disney e-mails and letters about the complete scores to "The Lion King," "The Little Mermaid" and other Disney scores earlier this year.  They said the same thing as this reply - no plans to release them.  Then the Legacy Collection was announced with "The Lion King" being released in June and "The Little Mermaid" in November.  I got the form reply months before the official announcement.

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Mike O said:

I think it translates roughly as "we aren't restoring those versions."

 No I don't think so. They probably send a similar email to all people who ask for a title with no re-release date. I was more emailing them to see if they'd say something along the lines of, "Star Wars Episodes IV-VI are already available..." or something like, "The current versions of the films are the official versions." The fact that they referred to the unaltered versions as a separate product, and as a part of their catalogue is actually a fairly reassuring statement in my book.

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yoda-sama said:

And no, Fox would not be the right place to ask, as they would never spend the money to restore a property that will be handed off in a few years, at this point it is up to Disney/Lucasfilm to fit the bill for any new transfers and then tell Fox how high to jump.

It also isn't up to Fox what gets released (and when) in the first place. That's entirely up to Lucasfilm. I bet an email back from Fox would read "Are you kidding? We'd love to put out the original versions if only they'd let us!"

I'm assuming that the 2013 bd/dvd trilogy combo packs were something Fox was simply within its rights to reissue. Technically there's nothing on those discs that wasn't in the 2011 set. Yeah, it's the first time the 2011 versions were on dvd, but that's splitting hairs.

For some reason, the fact that the movies haven't been released individually on blu-ray gets my hopes up. It could mean that we might eventually get the blu-ray equivalent of the 2006 release, only done right this time.

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Fang Zei said:

For some reason, the fact that the movies haven't been released individually on blu-ray gets my hopes up. It could mean that we might eventually get the blu-ray equivalent of the 2006 release, only done right this time.

 This is kind of off topic but I'm surprised that they haven't released the PT individually, since the only one people seem to like is Sith and even then I can't see many people buying all three just to watch that one. As for individual blu rays including the OUT, I could see that happening, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they release another box set of the trilogy with the OUT in it. I don't want to pretend that the OUT is some kind of goldmine for Disney, but since the whole "Saga" has already been released on blu ray, including the OUT is probably the best way to get people to double dip and re-buy the movies, as well as draw in people who didn't buy them before. I think 95% of Star Wars fans would buy an OUT release (even people who like the SE's).

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Maybe that's exactly why the prequels haven't been released individually: They know Eps I and II wouldn't sell nearly as well as III.

I'm the crazy guy who would buy all six films on blu-ray if the theatrical cuts were included. The blu-ray of RotS already is the theatrical cut if I'm not mistaken.

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Fang Zei said:

Maybe that's exactly why the prequels haven't been released individually: They know Eps I and II wouldn't sell nearly as well as III.

I'm the crazy guy who would buy all six films on blu-ray if the theatrical cuts were included. The blu-ray of RotS already is the theatrical cut if I'm not mistaken.

 ROTS is the original version yes, and I'd definitely buy all six if the OUT was included. I honestly don't think we have to worry about that though. If Disney has to spend time and money restoring the OUT they won't want to overprice it so much that they'd lose customers, especially since the complete saga has already been released and most of the people who would buy the OUT wouldn't want the prequels anyway. If they release the OUT before Ep. VII, they will want to package it and advertise it in a way that will get people to impulse buy something they've already bought since a lot of people already own the SE's on blu ray, but that's just my prediction on the subject. 

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Do you guys think they'd announce an OUT release at the "Star Wars Celebration" next April. That seems like a good time to announce it since that's the kind of crowd that'd be excited about something like that.

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I think if Lucasfilm announced the OUT at Celebration the attendee nerd-gasms would last for a thousand generations!

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GlastoEls said:

I think if Lucasfilm announced the OUT at Celebration the attendee nerd-gasms would last for a thousand generations!

I agree. Celebration could be a perfect time to announce it if it's something they're doing. If they do release the OUT I think it'll either be released Christmas 2014, or Fall 2015 at the latest. If they do decide on a later release date then Celebration would be a great time to announce it, especially since that audience would love something like that.

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gizzy2000 said:



GlastoEls said:

I think if Lucasfilm announced the OUT at Celebration the attendee nerd-gasms would last for a thousand generations!


I agree. Celebration could be a perfect time to announce it if it's something they're doing. If they do release the OUT I think it'll either be released Christmas 2014, or Fall 2015 at the latest. If they do decide on a later release date then Celebration would be a great time to announce it, especially since that audience would love something like that.


There's no way it's being released this year....if it happens.

I'm betting between Spring and Fall of next year...if it happens.

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Do you think that Disney will include the Holiday Special in future boxed sets? As hilariously bad as the Holiday Special is, there's a big market for it as far as Star Wars fans go.

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moviefreakedmind said:

Do you think that Disney will include the Holiday Special in future boxed sets? As hilariously bad as the Holiday Special is, there's a big market for it as far as Star Wars fans go.

Does Disney own the Holiday Special now?