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Any truth to this?
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Originally posted by: Lethe
Forgive me if this has been discussed before on the boards. I was thinking about it the other night and looked briefly but couldnt find anything.
In the PT we are given an explanation about the Force, midiclorians? (or whatever). But in the OT we have a conversation between Ben and Luke, where the force is explained quite differently, at least I think so. (And also, there are numerous reference to the Force as a sort of "religion" which I think implies it relies less on the science of particular micro-thingies, and more on faith, etc).
Are we to understand that everyone can manipulate the force, which is the understanding I fostered from the OT? Or are there only certain people, those with high counts of the "midi..."whatever?
Like I said, this may have been discussed before, sorry if it has.
I personally like to think of the OT version, it seems more Taoist. It makes the force a little more mystical and awe inspiring. Why the need to get all technical?
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Droids cant use the Force because they are not human, they are things! And to me, the Force is simply the Force, and that's it, there is no midchlorian crap into it.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I hate the word "mystical" I have an aversion to mysticicsm....
But what I'm saying is that the midichlorians don't make the Force any less mysterious. It still has it's own will,
,and things without cells, such as rocks and droids exist in it. Qui-gon Jinn was obvioulsy mistaken when he asserted that life coluld not exist without midichlorians, as we exist, and The Yuzzhan Vong exist with out them. (Which Ultimately serves to make the Force more mysterious.)
I think it is more like that midichlorians channel the Force into a person, not that they make-up the Force.
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Originally posted by: jimbo
I think the midichlorians are a good explaination. It also explains why droids can't use the force. Also the midicholorians are not the force.
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They are simply how living creatures communicate with the force. The force is still a mysterious energy field not a collection of microorganisms.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I hate the word "mystical" I have an aversion to mysticicsm....
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Originally posted by: motti_soL
you could think about it this way: the jedi know about the midichlorians, and thats it. if everybody else knew about them, then they would try and steal one of those gadgets just to see if they had shitloads of midichlorians or not. some time passed between ep3 and ep4, so a lot of people even doubt the existance of that "religion"...
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Originally posted by: Look Sir. Droids!
I've heard that in the EU (expanded universe) there are two schools of jedi. The more Buddhist Jedis and the more Western (will of the force, midoclorian) Jedi.
Any truth to this?
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I have also always thought that midichlorians were a good explaination of why droids can't use the Force. In fact, I am surprised that it hasn't come up in an explanation of why the Yuzzhan Vong arent in the Force.
And it is obvious that there is more than one view of the Force. Some Jedi, like Vergere, don't even believe in the Dark Side.
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Thing about it is in the original trilogy it is never explained why some individuels can use the force better then others. Since the mystic force is all around us why some individuels can use it better has to be something biological. Which is why I like the midichlorian idea.
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Thing about it is in the original trilogy it is never explained why some individuels can use the force better then others. Since the mystic force is all around us why some individuels can use it better has to be something biological. Which is why I like the midichlorian idea.
So, by this explanation, I'm not a professional football player not because I didn't practice, work out, or do drills, it's because I don't have enough hormones in my bloodstream?
Um... okay.
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Originally posted by: Lethe
Im glad this thread got a breath of fresh air. Im trying to sort my thoughts on how the force and genetics might work. I mean, if you dont like the midiclorian thing that is.
Its funny that it was brought up about ep2 not having any mention of midiclorians.
P.S. If im spelling that wrong, I dont really care.