4K restoration on Star Wars — Page 21

bkev said:

Pardon my ignorance, but I've skimmed the last few pages and have yet to see anyone mention going to the Atlanta screening. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

 Pages 11-14. I attended the event and to the best of my knowledge, the DCP was made from the 2011 Blu-ray release of the Special Edition. It is a dead-end as far as this thread goes and no longer worth mentioning. Sorry. 

Of course, there is the possibility that Disney took RMW's supposed new scan, shat on it, and then sent it to the theater, making the screening still a relevant topic. /s

I think as far as the RMW scan goes, I think it was a G. Lucas approved project for the 3D release. I guess there's hope that maybe Disney inherited this and turned things around for an OUT release but we really just have to wait and see, I guess. I hope it's an OUT release, but I think my desire for the OT to be sold in stores again is so strong that it clouds my judgement.

The only thing this Atlanta screening might've been the "first" of is a dcp made from the 2011 version, which in any event is still based off the 2004 Lowry master.

I agree that the RMW job was probably in preparation for the 3D conversion of the OT, which I would bet Disney is still gonna do.

It costs about $10 million to convert a two-hour movie to 3D. Each of the OT movies would at least do the same box office as TPM 3D, so I don't see Disney passing up that opportunity.

ObiWanKennerobi said:

I wonder if fans will be super pissed when 20k comes out and all that's available is 4k OT.

 I don't know. Honestly, I won't be because I have no desire to ever buy a better tv again, so if the OOT looks good on my current TV then i'm fine

Human eyes likely will only be able to detect a vague difference between 20K and 4K. 

DominicCobb said:

Human eyes likely will only be able to detect a vague difference between 20K and 4K. 

 That, and 35 MM technically only has a resolution of around 6000 lines, so you wouldn't be pulling any more quality out of it.

Fang Zei said:

The only thing this Atlanta screening might've been the "first" of is a dcp made from the 2011 version, which in any event is still based off the 2004 Lowry master.

I agree that the RMW job was probably in preparation for the 3D conversion of the OT, which I would bet Disney is still gonna do.

It costs about $10 million to convert a two-hour movie to 3D. Each of the OT movies would at least do the same box office as TPM 3D, so I don't see Disney passing up that opportunity.

 Don't forget it was Disney that pulled the plug on the 3D re-releases

.....hopefully they have better plans for the new scans

J

Jaitea said:

Fang Zei said:

The only thing this Atlanta screening might've been the "first" of is a dcp made from the 2011 version, which in any event is still based off the 2004 Lowry master.

I agree that the RMW job was probably in preparation for the 3D conversion of the OT, which I would bet Disney is still gonna do.

It costs about $10 million to convert a two-hour movie to 3D. Each of the OT movies would at least do the same box office as TPM 3D, so I don't see Disney passing up that opportunity.

 Don't forget it was Disney that pulled the plug on the 3D re-releases

.....hopefully they have better plans for the new scans

J

They "pulled the plug" (not how they phrased it) for obvious reasons when they announced Ep7 was happening in 2015. They were gonna put out one movie a year, then it was gonna be AotC and RotS a few weeks apart in September/October 2013, then the Disney deal happened and priorities changed.

All they ever technically said was that the rest of the 3D re-releases were being postponed indefinitely.

I still think they'll at least do a 3D theatrical re-release of the OT at some point between now and Ep7. They'll make serious money off of it anyway and it makes sense from a nostalgia standpoint. Yeah, it'll be the SE again, but from a new scan and with better-looking picture and colors. Like we've discussed in this thread, a lot of people out there don't really care about the different versions of the movies. Hell, the $40 million or so that TPM 3D pulled in shows that people apparently don't even care which installment it is.

But a 3D trailer from a well-done conversion job of a nice new 4k master would blow audiences away, I think. Disney is undoubtedly considering this, at the very least.

I think Star Wars (77) alone would make at least double what TPM made if it were released in 3D. Phantom Menace is considered a joke even amongst people who don't care about Star Wars, at least amongst everyone I know. I stand by what I thought earlier though; which is that next time the OT is released on Blu ray/DVD (40th anniversary?) it will include the OUT, even if it is just a GOUT type thing (although I doubt it would be anywhere near as much of a half-assed after thought as the GOUT was).

gizzy2000 said:

I think Star Wars (77) alone would make at least double what TPM made if it were released in 3D. Phantom Menace is considered a joke even amongst people who don't care about Star Wars, at least amongst everyone I know. I stand by what I thought earlier though; which is that next time the OT is released on Blu ray/DVD (40th anniversary?) it will include the OUT, even if it is just a GOUT type thing (although I doubt it would be anywhere near as much of a half-assed after thought as the GOUT was).

But would they wait until the arbitrary anniversary? It would make way more sense to do this as a lead-up to Episode 7 in 2015.

As for the OUT, I'll be surprised if not shocked if they don't put it out on blu-ray by the end of next year. If they look as good as the archival versions of Blade Runner I'll be happy. Just don't botch them like Paramount did with most of the Trek films. Now that was the blu-ray equivalent of the GOUT.

Yes Star Trek was very half-assed. And I think you're right about the lead up to Episode VII, and I doubt Disney would muck it up like the GOUT. They'll at least make it look acceptable in HD. I always said that if George ever released the OUT again, it would've been the 40th anniversary/20th anniversary of the SE. I sometimes forget he's not in charge anymore

gizzy2000 said:

Yes Star Trek was very half-assed. And I think you're right about the lead up to Episode VII, and I doubt Disney would muck it up like the GOUT. They'll at least make it look acceptable in HD. I always said that if George ever released the OUT again, it would've been the 40th anniversary/20th anniversary of the SE. I sometimes forget he's not in charge anymore

Right, but also I was thinking about how '97 was the last time we got any kind of re-release coinciding with an anniversary. They don't seem to care about that kind of thing anymore when it comes to re-releases of the actual movies.

Fang Zei said:

Right, but also I was thinking about how '97 was the last time we got any kind of re-release coinciding with an anniversary. They don't seem to care about that kind of thing anymore when it comes to re-releases of the actual movies.

 That's true, there was no 30th anniversary thing either. Plus, I bet the only reason we got 20th anniversary stuff was because GL wanted to use it as a gimmick to sell the SE. Hopefully we'll get the OUT before Episode VII, by 2015 we'll be overdo for an SW re-release.  Seriously I can't remember the last time we went more than 4 or 5 years without a release of the OT, it was even more often when leading up to the PT. We got the OT released in '95, then the SE in '97, and then another SE in 2000 with the only difference being that Episode IV, V, and VI were added to the box art.

moviefreakedmind said:

Fang Zei said:

As for the OUT, I'll be surprised if not shocked if they don't put it out on blu-ray by the end of next year. If they look as good as the archival versions of Blade Runner I'll be happy. Just don't botch them like Paramount did with most of the Trek films. Now that was the blu-ray equivalent of the GOUT.

 Honestly, I'd be surprised if they ever release Star Wars again WITHOUT including the OUT. I must stress that I can't say whether or not it will be a satisfactory restoration, but Disney knows that releasing the movies without the OUT is just alienating some of their potential customers, and they're smarter than that. 

you may be right. I think Disney knows that there is a significant percentage of their customers that will not buy an OT release if it doesn't have the OUT. I do think they're smart enough to know the best (maybe even the only) way to get people to double dip and re-buy SW on blu ray is to include the OOT.

moviefreakedmind said:

Troyig88 said:

If they do release the OUT  I hope they go all out on the package and not something so ugly as that Complete Saga set.

 Idk about you, but if there's one thing that truly encapsulates what the Star Wars Saga is all about, it's a picture of Jake Lloyd... ;) 

 I always thought it would've looked nicer if they'd added a little speech bubble above his head that said, "Now, this is podracing!"

Seriously guys, HOW could this have ANYTHING to do with the 3D release? Were not the changes planned to the 3D releases put into the 2011 BD? And wasn't this scan done in 2012?

pittrek said:

Seriously guys, HOW could this have ANYTHING to do with the 3D release? Were not the changes planned to the 3D releases put into the 2011 BD? And wasn't this scan done in 2012?

 I've just assumed it was for 3D because they wanted a new scan for the movies being in cinemas since the old Lowry work wasn't going to cut it, and it started before the Disney deal, so it was a Lucas approved project, and it happened around the time of the whole 3D things. Again, we really don't know anything, this scan could be for a release of the unadulterated trilogy for all we know; this thread is just speculation