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Ronster
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Empire Strikes Back Soundtrack Restored and Rescored Demo project
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25-Jul-2014, 3:36 AM

Before I do anymore on this I wanted to do a bit of house keeping so now all links are streaming links. That way it is easier to watch and listen, and I hope this makes it easier for people. I was busy doing the actual sound editing at the time so I felt this needed to be updated. Hope this means more people will stop in to have a listen and hopefully enjoy.

Thanks

And as this project is half love of the film and music and part detective work there is something I have been thinking about Han on the Taun Taun. I think the music that is claimed to be for R2 and C3-PO's chat before Luke Collapses could be music score for Han Solo riding the Taun Taun because it is similar to the music when Han get's to Luke and put's him inside the Taun Taun. This could be a myth dispelled about what people have claimed to be music for the R2 scene may have always been intended to be for Han on the Taun Taun. Not Sure about that yet but it's a very strong hunch that I have.

Edit

I think it may be 50/50 part of that music is for R2 and C3PO and part of it is for Han... I have cut the film as close to the 4th draft as possible with an acceptance of early 5th draft changes to script.... It plays out a bit different but It works well enough but has one missing shot of Han on the Taun Taun riding out of echo base. The only way to get to the bottom of the muddle is to cut the film as if it were the 4th draft and see what happens as the revisions are not available for the 5th draft so it's guess work.

I have also noticed another awkward cut to score when C3-PO and R2 go to talk to Han by the falcon so this will have an edit soon but I plan to do as close as I can 4th/ early 5th draft reconstruction if possible. But it's not easy and will take time. I may also be wrong about the probe droid at dawn I need to figure out how long is missing from the score as It cut's in at the end of Han trying to save Luke so we must assume that perhaps this scene was silent as there is a break in the score before the snowspeeders take flight kicks in proper.

Ok I promised something a bit radical here you go.

"Rogue Flight Prepare to Launch"

http://vimeo.com/101787038

"Rogue Flight Prepare to Launch" taken from the Empire Strikes Back Radio drama and inserted to the film. This Slightly pumps up the prelude to battle and thinking of 5:1 sound mixes I wondered if this would work well in the rear speakers like the announcement would be pushing the viewer out the door... Anyway I like it hope other people like the idea.

Han to the rescue

http://vimeo.com/101791068

This was just an edit to smooth out the cut to the music once again it features a one note re-score to tail it off and prevent the tangent of score that comes after it so it feels like a complete piece.

Hoth Search Final

http://vimeo.com/101798979

The thorn in my side is gone now... I have eliminated all the dead air from the sequence of Han searching for Luke in the snow. Hope you enjoy it both a video an audio edit this time but It was not as complicated as I thought and there is still some improvisation in there but I think it works well I could get used to it rather than all the silence. The scene needed emotion not intensity... It now has emotion from John Williams. But it is more a case of pulling one out the bag than restoring any known cues as I said before I not saying this is how John Williams intended it to be but I have got rid of the dead air and that is what I wanted to achieve so it's a "way of doing it" which nobody else has come up with and the restored music video is quite frankly awful so I'd settle for silence over that video on Starwarz.com but I'd settle for my video over silence if you catch my drift. It's also using music that was intended for this part of the film and not like music edits in the original film that pulls music from score that was never intended to go in this parts that they put it in. So It's not as radical as the original in that sense but it's the best I could do.

Snowspeeders take flight

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/p6mdx2wq3aicyfp/snow+speeders+take+flight+EDIT.wav

Ok another straming link for now but more discovery as I extracted the 5:1 audio removed as much as I could to isolate the voice of Zev and synched it all up properly but still to add it to video... Here's what I think I found out.

1. Missing shot of the sunrise before the sequence starts Whoops no Black screen perhaps

2. Missing shot of snowspeeder in the middle like pictured below

3. Probe droid comes after the speeder lands in echo base??? Or I think it does. Or it See's the speeders taking off?

4. Synched up the Bacta Tank cues properly???.. This is probably the transition back to echo base Landing Bay from the probe droid??? Not Sure..

I will ask again if someone can help out on the video side of things here again, I have not yet put the audio to the footage but I have also a sneaky feeling that some shots may have been sped up a bit. So is it getting a bit more exciting now? Anyone can help do a small edit? I have never seen a restored version that incorporates the cues the way I am saying it is. I am not just putting music over footage I am trying to rebuild it so as we can appreciate what It might have been like... Please help anyone?

So having slept on this piece of music that follows the rescue of Han and Luke by the Snowspeeders I am settling on that the Mcquarrie Image is the Hard Braking before Zev Landed.

Now The Empire strikes Back "Jaws" influenced section.

It's not a chase scene but it's a different take on the unseen monster... Instead of a shark it is the probe droid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWLO4acMTCM

The similarities between the cut music and the jaws motif theme are very similar indeed. Getting Closer getting closer Snow Speeders fly off Back to echo base. The Radio Drama situates this music in the tent with Luke dragging him out but the music sounds nothing like a struggle it sounds like a hunt or a chase. Although it's a dupe because the probe droid does not want to eat them. But only to Hunt them... And tell on them.

Anyway I have now edited to video and although I cannot honestly account for the music that comes afterwards because I still have my doubts about what it is for... I can't be 100&

I will post it up soon. The main thing to celebrate about doing this restoration of the music has shown me the fade through black and the wind howling over the black screen and then we fade into daybreak weather it's "hyperspace" or "The Snowspeeders take flight" The one thing I am pleased that I have discovered is the black screen with sound. An absolute improvement in the pacing of the scene hands down. I think it works a treat. So no more Mumbo Jumbo  about what might have been but I think the next phase is to abandon restoring snow speeders take flight and concentrate on smoothing the cut bewteen hyperspace and this piece.