TK-949 said:
Laserschwert said:
Edit: Oh, I see, they don't close on top of each other, but front/back-wise.
Edit: You mean, like this:
Almost... I think the lower half of the engine still rotates downwards, and the upper half rotates upwards (IF the engine splits open at all).
You're right. Silly me.
Edit: This makes more sense
I think the engine splits, because each half has its own exhaust port.
The engine splits--or rather, it's actually two semicircular engines--because that's how it worked in Ralph McQuarrie's paintings of X-wings. That detail was changed for the final models into two separate circular engines. It's something that's always stood out for me when I look at the McQuarrie paintings of the Death Star battle.
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ATMachine said:
The engine splits--or rather, it's actually two semicircular engines--because that's how it worked in Ralph McQuarrie's paintings of X-wings.
Well, that's not really a valid argument ;) Of course I know that McQuarrie's design had splitting engines, but since we haven't seen a version of the new prop with open S-foils, we can't be 100% sure.
Really nice job on the teaser. Love the openness and fan inclusion with Abrams.
No doubt a call-back to the McQuarrie designs, including the colors. Even a nod to the original film with the tiny Death Star droid. They've really made a point of getting the 1977 vibe.
Oh wow, I didn't even notice that "over/under" design of how the s-foils fold up.
Harmy said:
Love the beat-up paint job - used universe indeed :-)
Abused, even, in ways more than one.
I like those teasers, but my stance on Abrams remains the same. That is: highly skeptical at best.
Fang Zei said:
Oh wow, I didn't even notice that "over/under" design of how the s-foils fold up.
Yeah, that's really clever. I can imagine people looking at it in the movie as it goes into combat and thinking: "Ah, a single wing desig....whaaaa?!"
Also, I wonder if small things like the mouse droid are just misdirection on the part of Abrams. I'd like to think that they wouldn't include everything from the previous movies just because it's recognizable as being from Star Wars.
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NeverarGreat said:
I'd like to think that they wouldn't include everything from the previous movies just because it's recognizable as being from Star Wars.
That's modern moviemaking for you, unfortunately. STID had plenty of that.
Though I imagine that this particular model wouldn't be terribly expensive or otherwise demanding to make just for the purpose of this teaser.
Abrams did say "what is that doing here?"
If this entire movie is full of McQuarrie designs I'm going to shit myself.
DominicCobb said:
If this entire movie is full of McQuarrie designs I'm going to shit myself.
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Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it's definitely the 1977 recording of the main theme at the end of that video.
The nostalgia button-pushing continues....
That helmet the pilot is wearing looks pretty interesting.
doubleofive said:
More teasing from the set:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWBGrkc360M
This time the full-sized new-model 38 ABY X-Wing.
JEDIT: It might be an older model, it's pretty beat up. Maybe a 25 ABY. Good year, they used the *pretends to talk like he knows something about cars/X-Wings*
YEEEESSSSSSS!!! *Hands waving all over the place and jumping up and down in excitement*
Wow the new pilot uniform looks very cool and now a squadron in the original blue!
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Stupid question, but what's JJ saying just a split-second before it cuts to the music?
Is he saying "that" a second time?
The camera is craned so far out I can barely see his face.
Yup. As if restating the question to someone off-camera.
That's what I thought, just making sure. For some reason it sounded weird to me.
Tobar said:
And I think Abrams lack of respect for storytelling is most telling in the people he has writing for him. Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof are some of the worst screenwriters working today. They don't give a damn about telling a good story, they just want to create a framework to film something "exciting." They don't care if it doesn't make sense as long as it'll look great on the screen.
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There's a difference between simple and nonsensical. Star Wars (1977) was actually competently written and a good story. The Star Trek reboots are awash in incredibly illogical, poorly thought out nonsense.
When Abrams is working from a decent script he makes it work but the writers he usually surrounds himself with show he doesn't care if a script is actually good or not. That or he's incredibly loyal to his friends and will stick with them even if they couldn't write themselves out of a paper bag.
On the aspect ratio issue for IMAX stuff in home viewing, I think it depends on how its done. In Catching Fire and Tron, I have no problem with it. I think they handled it well. But for TDKR I thought it was really bad. It was super jarring, every other scene it seemed like it was switching back and forth and on the Blu-ray it seemed like the regular shots were not as high quality as the IMAX shots, which was jarring in its own way. So I think its all in the use.
I think the X-wing looks good. Blew my mind when I finally realized how the wings were going to split. Its sleeker but still look has a distinct OT look, which can't be a bad thing. I'm a fan of JJ so I'm looking forward to seeing more.
Abrams was essentially a hired gun on the Trek films. On Star Wars, he was as well, but clearly he has more interest in the material and has taken it upon himself to do rewrites (of a Michael Arndt script with help from Lawrence Kasdan - not too shabby group of writers there, especially in comparison with Trek). On Trek he probably didn't feel it was worth the effort to fix the scripts in the writing room, or maybe he didn't know how (or maybe even he wasn't allowed to). But he certainly fixed them when it came time to actually make the movie. Look at anything else Kurtzman and Orci have written: total shit movies. But the Abrams Trek films are for sure awesome fun times. One thing's certain: Abrams can direct an action film.
By the way, I completely agree with bkev's post.
DominicCobb said:
clearly he has more interest in the material and has taken it upon himself to do rewrites
That's what worries me. Don't get me wrong, I think he's an excellent director but the stories he chooses to direct usually leave a lot to be desired.
But he certainly fixed them when it came time to actually make the movie. Look at anything else Kurtzman and Orci have written: total shit movies. But the Abrams Trek films are for sure awesome fun times. One thing's certain: Abrams can direct an action film.
All of the plot holes and utter dreck that were in the scripts survive in those films. Abrams personal flair is all that saves them from collapsing in on themselves.
My concern is that it's been reported that he's rewriting the scripts with Kasdan. If that's true, I fear he might be having Kasdan rewrite it to read like any other Bad Robot production. Emphasis on bad.
Tobar said:
DominicCobb said:
clearly he has more interest in the material and has taken it upon himself to do rewrites
That's what worries me. Don't get me wrong, I think he's an excellent director but the stories he chooses to direct usually leave a lot to be desired.
I think the direction's the primary reason I liked Super 8 as much as I did (Well, that and that it didn't take place in the 21st century.); the alien stuff certainly did nothing for me.
Tobar said:
But he certainly fixed them when it came time to actually make the movie. Look at anything else Kurtzman and Orci have written: total shit movies. But the Abrams Trek films are for sure awesome fun times. One thing's certain: Abrams can direct an action film.
All of the plot holes and utter dreck that were in the scripts survive in those films. Abrams personal flair is all that saves them from collapsing in on themselves.
That's my point. Even if the script is bad at least Abrams will make the movie good.
I'd like to see what Abrams can do with a smart script.