So I had intended to post this reply earlier than this but due to a strange set of circumstances when I would try there'd be an error page instead. Then I eventually lost much motivation to post it. So now I'm finally getting around to posting it so that I don't think about it at all during my three week break from threads here.

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Alright so, I've read the posts and I could respond to each point and we could keep going back and forth on this issue but I think it's better if I just bow out of this discussion.

It's just that the part of the thread title "thread where we make enemies out of friends" just becomes more and more likely to happen the longer this discussion drags out. Everything here just seems to be getting more and more personal. I also feel dragged into the discussion of personhood which isn't something that I wanted to discuss anyway. I just wanted to mention something that bothered me about the whole personhood issue and let that be that. I didn't intend to go on a several page debate about it. (And the constant analogy with cake batter that's supposed to clarify things really doesn't help. That's still not cake so I don't know why it keeps being brought up.)

Further I only started posting in this thread again because I saw an analogy that seemed to completely ignore the health risks of pregnancy. I just didn't want those risks to be ignored.

All that said, I think it's better that this discussion end as amicably as possible.
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That's roughly what I wanted to post much earlier than this. Course since I took a while to post that this thread has turned into a discussion on unicorns...