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Bingowings
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The Controversial Discussions Thread (Was "The Prejudice Discussion Thread" (Was "The Human Sexuality Discussion Thread" (Was "The Homosexuality Discussion Thread")))
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13-Jun-2014, 3:13 PM

Jetrell Fo said:

My posting a position counter to your own doesn't automatically make me more correct or superior, that can only be a conclusion drawn by a personal reading of my words. It is however my position which I'm entitled to hold and state just as you are entitled to disagree and counter it.

Sure it does.  You've shown it with Warb but apparently he isn't as equally entitled to disagree with you or honestly misunderstand something.

My response was that your hypothetical person's full support for equality would be better informed after reading books and talking to people.

I already support equality fully.  I do not understand the physical and emotional attraction of people who are like gender because there can be no generational fruition from that love.

  Yes I'm currently being quoted by Warb out of context (because he can only see the bits other people quote) and he his making snide remarks in his signature bar. Within the last few hours.

Why can only you make snide remarks at him?  You cannot take what you give?

If discussions are a learning platform what's wrong with you getting a lesson.

If the tone you used in that genuine learning lesson is how you teach I'm the son of a Lesbian Ant and a Gay Elephant.  You were letting me know you feel your command of language is better than mine, nothing more.

Warb is perfectly entitled to disagree with me and indulges this entitlement with extreme regularity. It is also true that people in general are capable of being ignorant and otherwise engaged enough to not be bothered with investigating the holes in the their knowledge. Warb also indulges this entitlement with extreme regularity. He hasn't an entitlement to be petty and childish but he indulges the opportunity regardless.

So your hypothetical person is you.

Fair enough.

In which case my response would be the same.

Read some books about the biology of physical attraction, the instances of same sex attraction in the non-human world, the instances where people who are beyond the ability to reproduce (older people, infertile people) and consider people who chose not to have children and ask yourself if they are less able to experience sexual attraction or love because a baby is in any way less possible than someone where a baby is an end result.

With an open mind talk to members of the LGBT community (on-line if you find a face to face uncomfortable). You may encounter some intolerant gay people but you may also be pleasantly surprised and get answers to your questions which would broaden your perspective.

I would argue that while supporting equality is worthy investment of effort it's enriched by understanding what you are investing in.

If I make snide remarks towards Warb it's in response to something I have read him say. I don't have him on ignore. If I had him on ignore I would not comment on his words at all, understanding that I am missing a larger part of the discussion.

The tone was an inference on your part, the intention on my part is to explain the terms I would use. In the past respondents to my postings on the subject of opinion have been met with confusion because of the different readings of the word "opinion" across national boundaries.