Jetrell Fo said:
TV's Frink said:
Jetrell Fo said:
And I said half gay dinosaurs, either get it right or don't try to use it to make some irrelevant comment about someone you don't know personally.
You can't be serious.
Ok, really Frink, you're the only one that can have a sense of humor?
@Bingo ..... I've said I do not condone such actions so why would you think I would poor bleach on someone just because I don't like them.
Again, for clarity, and hopefully the last time I need to state it. Bigotry is NOT limited to 1 particular religious group or global group of people. It IS everywhere on both sides of the fence. I would call anyone a liar who says otherwise. If that is NOT clear, I will not say it again.
You are repeating what you said without explaining what you said.
Discrimination is everywhere, we agree on that. I posted a link to a gay club not letting a disabled couple through their doors but when bigotry has a basis on a text held as 'holy' by one group who claim to be peaceful and claim to be against violence I can't see what is wrong in suggesting they distance themselves from that text.
The phrase "on both sides of the fence" has a particular meaning. It describes and adversarial relationship where a group on one side holds a certain view and a group on another side holds another view.
If you are suggesting this is an adversarial relationship where is the text that homosexuals hold dear advocating violence against Christians or Muslims or Jews?
There are plenty of books calling for violence against Jews or Muslims but none of them are written by or endorsed by Gay people collectively.
And yet all three religions collectively have passages in their holy texts calling for violence towards gay people.
That's a lot of followers and a lot of cultural influence so even if the bleach attacker is an atheist it's impossible to say he was immune from influence from that text.
I don't think there is necessarily an overall adversarial relationship between gay people and people of any other group but the text causes an adversarial relationship to occur between these groups on this one issue so it should be changed in the context of contemporary study and worship. Not expunged from history but placed within a historical context not a contemporary one.
I can get a copy of Triumph des Willens or Mein Kampf from the library but the German government doesn't endorse the contents as national policy anymore (I believe some persuasion was regrettably necessary).
You see what I mean now?
It hasn't been wiped from history but placed in an historical context.