darth_ender said:
In the very poignant words of my friend Warbler, "That is asinine." I never said a uterus should fulfill it's purpose. I'm saying it is designed for pregnancy. As much as you might want, it will never pump blood for you. It's designed for a specific function, and therefore the heart analogy was poor. This example is only exacerbating the flaws of such thinking.
RicOlie_2 said:
The heart can easily be replaced with a more suitable body part. I figured my point would get across anyway, but yes, the analogy was poor.
thejediknighthusezni said:
I'll have a try for an analogy that can be followed.
Suppose that a teenage girl, out of sheer criminal irresponsiblity, decides to jack a car for a joy-ride. Unbeknownst to the little ditz, someone's little one year-old baby is in the back seat. To escape the cops, she decides to drive deep into a national park and runs out of gas.
It's freezing cold, no water or food, no telling how many hours or days until help comes by. She discovers the sleeping baby.
If she doesn't carry the baby next to her warm body several miles to where they can be found, the baby will freeze and die. But this is extremely inconvenient. There is even a slightly increased risk of great harm or death for the car-jackette.
Fortunately, the rad-femmes and their enlightened backers know exactly what to do.
Just chuck that little wad of meaningless proto-plasm into a ravine and forget about it.
Fine how's this for an analogy. A woman requests an abortion. She's denied it due to laws and the doctors are unable to determine immediate risk of death to her. She and the fetus end up dead in spite of the stats saying "low risk" of death. Oh wait That happened and it was even linked to in this very thread.
Well at least you can say that it was her choice to have sex in the first place right? I mean it's not like there's a risk of being shot if a woman doesn't have sex with a guy right? Oh wait looks like some guy took it upon himself to add that to the "risk" side of women not having sex. Also linked to before in this thread.
These risks are just something I didn't want ignored. You can create a billion different analogies. You can gripe about my choice of organ in those analogies. It won't magically lower or eliminate the risk of death and health risks involved here. It's still there and shouldn't be ignored.
