Info Wanted: Are the 1997 Special Edition releases preserved? — Page 3

I'm actually in the process of building some hybrid DVDs of the 97 SEs. So far I've got ANH nearly done, using the crawl and unsubtitled scenes from the TB release and the rest of the film from the GKar. The GKar is by far the best in terms of quality, but the subs are hard coded and can't be easily removed, so I've intercut sections from the TB to remove them. I've also converted them to NTSC since although PAL has a higher res, I can't STAND the 4% speed up (and I'm from Australia, where PAL is the standard :P!)

By the way, if anyone can point me in the direction of some 5.1 ac3s of the 97SE audio tracks, I'd be very grateful (assuming any exist). All I've got at the moment are the English audio tracks from the GKar and TB, which are Stereo only.

The versions I own so far....

The Silver Box VHS S.E.

The VCD set

The Black Box U.S. Laserdisc set

The first and second pressing of the Japanese Box Laserdisc sets

Lee Thoroughgoods v.1 & v.2

......so far.

...........ooooops, I lied....I own the old crappy 5 Star Edition DVD's as well.

;)

I would be most happy to get a newer version of these.  A dedicated thread for this project would be good too.

:)

russs15 said:

Try here for info on 5.1 tracks for the SE.  http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Laser-Disc-Audio-Archive/topic/14542/

 

Sweet! :D Thanks for that. Looks like I'll have to request a reseed, but I'm sure somebody on the Spleen will be able to oblige!

STENDEC, I'm glad to hear about your project and look forward to its completion.  I've been hoping for a nice NTSC version of the 97 SE.  I've got a couple of other versions, but it'd be nice to have a higher quality version for this American :)  Good luck.

russs15 wrote: In short, if we had a frame for frame SE standard and video and audio projects followed that standard, any video or any audio timed to the standard would be interchangeable.

I'm semi working on this, coming from a different angle.  negative1 had taken the frame counts from the GOUT, i've been double checking them.  Once you have those, the checking/conversion of the 1997 doesn't take that long.  For example here's the SWSE:TB (far right) [40 shots have either a different count or were added between GOUT and SWSE:TB.  and some of those are plus one or minus one frame, so those are spots which could be a problem or solution]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtjXdIjRQo5NdFNKRG11OW11WlY1TGU5QWVnNzVsY1E

Have also done Lee Thorogood's PAL LD SWSE.  So with the other known SE videos, compiled in a similar fashion, can get the spreadsheet to identify where the missing frames exist and piece together the known SE frames.  But i'm not that certain how to check the DTS audio with the findings of the video.  In another thread recently, msycamore said he took one of the SE releases and found a missing frame or two from it.

Will be going into this more in the spreadsheet thread.  Where once an initial set of data is put out as Version.X.  Then someone will need to verify / repeat the numbers currently found.

I've been saying this since before I got on board with borisanddoris and Eldonante for the DTS audio projects.

It's a place in the Star Wars history that deserves a preservation treatment before it disappears too.  

:) 

STENDEC said:

I've also converted them to NTSC since although PAL has a higher res, I can't STAND the 4% speed up (and I'm from Australia, where PAL is the standard :P!)

I thought pitch correction was easily implemented these days, or is it the video speed up that bothers you?

Sorry for bumping an old thread but you all might be interested in Harmy's new 97 SE HD release he based off of his despecialized edition. 

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Respecialized-Edition-97-AVCHD-and-MKV-now-out/topic/16682/

Since we're already bumping this older thread (which I don't see the harm in IF you're adding useful information...as you were), then it should certainly be noted that Team Blu's commendable efforts in producing a quality 1997 SE HD release (which also directly helped to facilitate Harmy's aforementioned preservation) was distributed on May 4th...

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-OT-1997-Special-Edition-Info/topic/10550/

All the best! ;)

-A.S.

p.s. BOTH projects are available on MySpleen AND at least Team Blu may be found on usenet (...look for the PW in their May 4, 2014 post to their above indicated release thread.)