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I heard that there are several upset people out there because Whitta dislikes the SE and PT and how can we expect him to bring respect to Star Wars if he doesn't respect Lucas.

I laughed and laughed.

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You can't respect Star Wars if you respect Lucas. The two are mutually exclusive.

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I haven't read the entire thread, so, I apologize if this concept was previously presented here, or in the countless EU fiction that's been written over the years.

I think it would be interesting to see something involving Alderaan. I don't mean to just show the planet in passing, but to make it a very important, prominently featured locale, in the same vain as Tatooine in SW. The main character could be a young Alderaanian (I don't know if that's the correct term), who grows up hearing about the powerful things the Empire can do, and, since the system is mostly out of their jurisdiction, he glorifies what is said about their staggering strength. Over time, we see him become a prominent Imperial figure, and truly strives to build a massive Empire. The film ends with Alderaan's destruction, as he watches those that share his ideologies obliterate his entire past. We could see the frantic panic of the citizens as this ominous space station draws nearer to their home.

If the movie ends here, it could lead to some uncertainty, or it could move onward to show him trying to create a fairer, modified, Empire, similar to the differing branches of Christianity. The Empire wouldn't take too kindly to this, and would brand him a traitor. This is NOT the Alliance that he's joined, but something totally different. Why does everything need to be the Rebels versus the Empire? Let's see the third parties.

Besides, it could really create a much more emotional reaction when the planet is demolished, which would leave a huge impact on the viewer, and, in a way, make the original film much more emotionally satisfying when you see it happen again, from Leia's perspective. 

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Ziggy Stardust said:

I haven't read the entire thread, so, I apologize if this concept was previously presented here, or in the countless EU fiction that's been written over the years.

I think it would be interesting to see something involving Alderaan. I don't mean to just show the planet in passing, but to make it a very important, prominently featured locale, in the same vain as Tatooine in SW. The main character could be a young Alderaanian (I don't know if that's the correct term), who grows up hearing about the powerful things the Empire can do, and, since the system is mostly out of their jurisdiction, he glorifies what is said about their staggering strength. Over time, we see him become a prominent Imperial figure, and truly strives to build a massive Empire. The film ends with Alderaan's destruction, as he watches those that share his ideologies obliterate his entire past. We could see the frantic panic of the citizens as this ominous space station draws nearer to their home.

If the movie ends here, it could lead to some uncertainty, or it could move onward to show him trying to create a fairer, modified, Empire, similar to the differing branches of Christianity. The Empire wouldn't take too kindly to this, and would brand him a traitor. This is NOT the Alliance that he's joined, but something totally different. Why does everything need to be the Rebels versus the Empire? Let's see the third parties.

Besides, it could really create a much more emotional reaction when the planet is demolished, which would leave a huge impact on the viewer, and, in a way, make the original film much more emotionally satisfying when you see it happen again, from Leia's perspective. 

I love this idea. This might be the best spin-off idea that I have ever heard.

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doubleofive said:

I heard that there are several upset people out there because Whitta dislikes the SE and PT and how can we expect him to bring respect to Star Wars if he doesn't respect Lucas.

I laughed and laughed.

 The same several people who were pissed when Simon Pegg was hired to voice Dengar on TCW? ;)

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(to darklordoftech) Thank you. I was really worried that my idea wouldn't be looked kindly upon.

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Perhaps, in the aftermath, the audience could see a lot of Imperial propaganda being put out about how crucial it was for Alderaan to be blown up, by describing terrible things perpetrated by its people against other planets, that, of course, never actually happened on the planet. Maybe, this propaganda about the system was already being made, before Alderaan even met its end?

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Ziggy Stardust said:

(to darklordoftech) Thank you. I was really worried that my idea wouldn't be looked kindly upon.

Frankly, it's one of the best story ideas I've ever come across. I'm surprised you'd think it wouldn't be well received.

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A somewhat similar idea was used in issue #86 of Marvel Star Wars, The Alderaan Factor. After her shuttle is shot down while on a diplomatic mission, Leia is stranded with a Stormtrooper from her home planet. They argue about who's to blame for Alderaan and then have to survive together until help arrives. It's a really good story, I'd recommend checking it out.

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Ziggy Stardust said:

Perhaps, in the aftermath, the audience could see a lot of Imperial propaganda being put out about how crucial it was for Alderaan to be blown up, by describing terrible things perpetrated by its people against other planets, that, of course, never actually happened on the planet. Maybe, this propaganda about the system was already being made, before Alderaan even met its end?

 I don't think Alderaan was on the Empire's hit list until Leia was exposed as a rebel spy. Tarkin seems to have made the decision to destroy it only when Leia resisted interrogation. Had Dantooine not been so remote, he might have backed off, but as it was, some well known planet was going to be blown up sooner or later to prove the Death Star worked.

Post destruction propaganda is more likely, or else the Empire was simply going to rely on the fear factor that a relatively peaceful planet was obliterated without mercy. With the senate dissolved, nobody was in a position to denounce anything.

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Never saw CHRONICLE, so really don't know anything about him. I'll prob catch the Fantastic 4 reboot when it comes out.

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Shoud we not have separate threads for each Standalone Film?

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Jaitea said:

Shoud we not have separate threads for each Standalone Film?

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I believe we can afford them.

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Seeing as we don't even have titles for any of them I figure this thread is fine for the time being. =P

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This thread reminds me of why I never want to see any further "Star Wars" movies.

I Lucas has ANY input into them, it will turn out that Han is actually Jangle Fart's long-lost brother, and Lando is Mace Windu's son, and Emperor Palpatine is the father of everyone with the surname "Antilles" in the entire universe.  And it will just shrink and shrink and shrink and shrink and shrink and shrink ...

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I don't think George has input in much of anything anymore. He came up with the outline for VII-IX and then handed everything over to Kennedy.

Since then they've hired a lot of writers who've been busy writing various projects.

Filoni has confirmed that George hasn't been involved with Rebels at all.

I think his focus has been on that museum he's been trying to build for a while now.

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Tobar said:

He came up with the outline for VII-IX and then handed everything over to Kennedy.

 And even then, I thought I remember hearing from a rumor a while back, that Michael Arndt, while he was kicked off the Star Wars 7 script, he did a lot of changes to the story treatment involving the overall sequel trilogy, so that it further differed from Lucas' vision (probably for the better).

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emanswfan said:

Tobar said:

He came up with the outline for VII-IX and then handed everything over to Kennedy.

 And even then, I thought I remember hearing from a rumor a while back, that Michael Arndt, while he was kicked off the Star Wars 7 script, he did a lot of changes to the story treatment involving the overall sequel trilogy, so that it further differed from Lucas' vision (probably for the better).

It could be the reason he was kicked out and they just reverted back.

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Ziggy Stardust said:

I haven't read the entire thread, so, I apologize if this concept was previously presented here, or in the countless EU fiction that's been written over the years.

I think it would be interesting to see something involving Alderaan. I don't mean to just show the planet in passing, but to make it a very important, prominently featured locale, in the same vain as Tatooine in SW. The main character could be a young Alderaanian (I don't know if that's the correct term), who grows up hearing about the powerful things the Empire can do, and, since the system is mostly out of their jurisdiction, he glorifies what is said about their staggering strength. Over time, we see him become a prominent Imperial figure, and truly strives to build a massive Empire. The film ends with Alderaan's destruction, as he watches those that share his ideologies obliterate his entire past. We could see the frantic panic of the citizens as this ominous space station draws nearer to their home.

If the movie ends here, it could lead to some uncertainty, or it could move onward to show him trying to create a fairer, modified, Empire, similar to the differing branches of Christianity. The Empire wouldn't take too kindly to this, and would brand him a traitor. This is NOT the Alliance that he's joined, but something totally different. Why does everything need to be the Rebels versus the Empire? Let's see the third parties.

Besides, it could really create a much more emotional reaction when the planet is demolished, which would leave a huge impact on the viewer, and, in a way, make the original film much more emotionally satisfying when you see it happen again, from Leia's perspective. 

 

That's a pretty good idea.

And it is something they should have done in the Prequels.  

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doubleofive said:

I heard that there are several upset people out there because Whitta dislikes the SE and PT and how can we expect him to bring respect to Star Wars if he doesn't respect Lucas.

I laughed and laughed.

 Yeah, I've been reading TFN forums & there's stupid shit like this all over the place.  

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spectraljulian said:

doubleofive said:

I heard that there are several upset people out there because Whitta dislikes the SE and PT and how can we expect him to bring respect to Star Wars if he doesn't respect Lucas.

I laughed and laughed.

 Yeah, I've been reading TFN forums & there's stupid shit like this all over the place.  

Listened to an episode of Rebel Force Radio or something where they spent the entire second half of the episode just blasting Whitta, saying he wouldn't be talking shit would and kiss Lucas' feet if they were in the same room, and why would they hire someone who doesn't respect Star Wars or Lucas.

They acted like he was going to come in and direct a purposefully shit movie to covertly destroy the franchise, and that he was deleting his old Lucas-bashing tweets to cover his ass, like Lucasfilm hired him without knowing he said all that.

Please. Just get off your high-horses Prequel lovers. They knew he said this stuff and they probably hired him because of it. It's like they just don't understand that the Prequels and the Special Editions just suck and the majority of people did not like them and now Lucasfilm is trying to right some of the wrongs that happened in the past decade.

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I've been checking out different Star Wars podcasts lately. ALL OF THEM were outraged that someone would disparage the Special Editions and the Prequels. Even more so that they would hire that someone to write a Star Wars film.

The only comments he made that I didn't care for were the ones toward Lucas. I may disagree with the plaided one but I still respect him.

That said, I think Whitta has the potential to write a great Star Wars script.

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I would just ignore them. They didn't stop watching the Clone Wars when Simon Pegg voiced Dengar, and they'll buy a ticket to whatever standalone this fellow makes, if only to kvetch about it afterward. ;)

We're in this amazing new era. One nobody would have thought could happen when the saga was supposedly over and done nine years ago, and some people actively look for new things to be unhappy about.

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