The risk of death is determined on an individual basis as is the risk of abortion. Besides in my scenario I said that she could theoretically handle it.RicOlie_2 said:
Twister, let me be the first to point out that darth_ender's analogy is far better than yours. A woman does not have a high risk of death when she is pregnant, and an abortion is more harmful than giving birth (repeated abortions can result in a damaged uterus, preventing the woman from ever having children again).
Well I said my analogy's not perfect either but it's a better representation than just needing to give money to doctors. If that's all that was required for pregnancy I really don't think abortion would even be a thing to exist at all. There is an undeniable physical toll on the woman while pregnant that the previous scenario is entirely absent of. Lowering that to only his and her's bank accounts is flawed.RicOlie_2 said:
She can also walk around and perform many activities that someone hooked up to another person would not be able to do. In fact, for the first two/three months of pregnancy, most women have no trouble performing activities they could do before they were pregnant.
RicOlie_2 said:
It is also usually the woman's fault if she is pregnant, since she (in just about every case) consented to sex with a man. In ender's scenario, the man and woman made a choice to drink enough to get drunk, and then drive, causing an accident. In your scenario, there was no choice involved, and it is analogous of a pregnancy that was caused by the woman hugging her boyfriend, immobilized her for all nine months, and had the possibility of killing her.
I presented two scenarios. The first is modifying ender's with the inclusion of the heart condition. So the car crash still happened. That choice was still there. The second is absent the car crash and it's their choice to be a part of a genetic study. Both presents choice. Without that choice the guy's condition would've never come to light and he would've died anyway. Similar to if a couple never has sex/donates their egg and/or sperm that fetus wouldn't exist anyway. In ender's scenario if the car crash didn't happen that guy would've theoretically lived a long time just fine. It's completely faulty compared to mine. Ender's scenario could only represent some weird scenario where their kid could just come into existence with absolute zero interaction with the parents. Not even needing to donate the sperm and egg.
The stranger needs to rely on her somehow for his life in order to be relevant to abortion. That reliance needs to be there car crash or not because there are plenty of non-drunk occurrences leading to a kid. Further that reliance needs to be something that could potentially kill her because pregnancy still carries a risk of death. Maybe lowered risk today but it's still there and it shouldn't be denied.
RicOlie_2 said:
Try again, Twister. I fail to see how your analogy corresponds whatsoever to the realities of pregnancy, and the choice made that begins it.
Well I hope I've clarified my scenario to you.
