Warbler said : hey, why stop at removing life-saving measures? Just fill him full of arsenic. Of course make sure he can't tell you whether or not he likes yo-yos first. By Bingo's asinine logic, it should be perfect legal for me to walk into a hospital and shoot and kill a bunch of newborns. After they are not yet toddlers and can't tell me whether or not they like yo-yos, so I guess they are not people so killing them is not murder!

Warbler has me on ignore so I can let him off not contextualising my comments but when he calls them asinine he really should read them first.

I wasn't saying that babies weren't human or not important. I was saying they weren't people. A seed is not a flower. It might become a flower but it might become the topping on a bread loaf or be ground up to make a pain killing opiate. Some flowers spring from bulbs.

That isn't meant to advocate the grinding up of babies you understand I'm just pointing out silliness of equating a fetus with a person.

As for post birth abortions of cause they could happen, many cultures throughout history have and do these things. Cultures do not don't because of the value they place in the baby not the qualities of it's personality.