Tyrphanax said:
Lord Haseo said:
Tyrphanax said:
danny_boy said:
Whether you like or dislike these adjustements/enhancements is a matter of opinion.
The fact that Haseo would be just fine with redubbing all the dialogue to bring it up to date really takes the cake, though, and shows Lucas-esque levels of revisionism. I mean, if we had the OUT already, then sure, replace all the actors with Jar-Jar for the next Special Edition for all I care, but not until then.
I only said I'd only consider it if it were better than the OUT. Lucas made changes for the worst (for the most part). Also do not take my words out of context in order to establish credibility. You're better than that.
Can any of you really say that Mark and Carrie gave good performances in ANH? If we were to compare any of their scenes to a scene with acting like this.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bd_KCUZFk0
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvwTx1UWswQ
it falls short. And before you say "STAR WARS was shot back in 1976." just remeber that Harrison Ford, Alec Guinness and Peter Cushing gave good performances in STAR WARS so there's no excuse. As for redubbing I only mentioned Mark and Carrie. Everyone else did a serviceable to good jobs.
I certainly don't mean to take your words out of context, my only point is that "better than the OUT" is a subjective thing. There can be no "definitive, objective" "better than" the OUT; even if this hypothetical new dialogue was written by a modern-day Shakespeare, it wouldn't "fit" with the movie to some people, just like the "improvements" in the SE don't "fit" with the movie for the majority of people here.
Personally, I think all revisions to Star Wars should be treated as alternate versions. Not one, even if it was an objectively "better" version, would replace the OUT for me, and I think that's why you're catching so much flak from so many people.
The reason I am getting so much shit for this is that people like to feel that their opinions matter. That no matter how flawed someones belief is (for example: people thinking that Jack Nicholson was a better Joker than Heath Ledger or that Michael Keaton was a better Batman than Christian Bale or that homosexuals shouldn't get married) people want to have their beliefs validated. Look at how detrimental this has been to society. With this line of thought only 10 states in the USA have gay marriage legal in them because now it is all important to have no one's feelings regardless of objectivity. And yes I realize the world isn't anywhere close to ready for objectivity to be the ruling thought process among Homosapiens. I know you all have an emotional connection to the OUT and even though I didn't grow up with the OUT (But I certainly do own them) I see where you're coming from although I find that thought process to be inadequate and there is nothing I can say to change your minds. I do want the OUT on Blu-Ray because it is a piece of history that should be immortalized, but IF I had to pick a version of Star Wars to show ET's or anybody else I would show them SW:R. And if Earth were being destroyed and I had to pick one version of Star Wars to take with me I'd choose SW:R....Perhaps I should have said exactly that....>_>