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Post #706642

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Mithrandir
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The Unofficial Complete REVISITED SAGA Ideas and Random Discussion Thread
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21-May-2014, 6:44 PM

Bingowings said:

The only way to make this Anakin redeemable in my view is to have him suffering from mental illness due to badly managed grief and by the time he knows what he has done he has already lost everything he loves.

Make him a tragic enough figure and you can even forgive him killing children.

Lucas set up an order where anakin fell because he was too human. GL wanted the jedi order to be morally more than humans, he didn't want them to commit to anybody, nor to help or show compassion, not even to marry. 

While the Jedi keep this rigid behaviour,  the galaxy is in order. But then comes Anakin, who acts like a normal person, chooses his wife over his duty, and so he falls (and the republic falls) because of their forbidden love. Cleary it is wrong for him to be and act just as a common folk would.That's his tragedy, he was forced to be more than what he was and the Jedi have misunderstood the prophecy all along (if in these edits there even is a prophecy)

Now take LOTR. The ultimate success in Frodo's mission comes from love under the form of pity, because he spared Gollum's life, because Faramir let Frodo go when he wasn't supposed to, etc. In a general way, we are culturally trained) to identify ourselves with characters that show human scale while heroes are determined, heroes have goals of grandeur and stay on their path. Characters we all like with are the ones that are set in a path that wasn't theirs, and solve things the best they can (Han solo, anyone?)

I'd pity Anakin and support his redemption if he obbeyed the Council and let his mother die by staying in Naboo . I'd understand his fall if after being constantly forced to pospone his individual interests for the "greater good" he found mace windu trying to kill Palpatine, thus showing that the Jedi don't always act as the rules say.

I believe I'd love an arc where the true responsible for Anakin's fall is the military morale of the Jedi Order and not Palpatine. I'd want to give more meaning to Yoda's pacifism, perhaps he's learnt something based on what happened.

Besides, the "perfect soldier" Anakin is a more similar persona to Vader than whiny Anakin is, and I totally see and comprehend Padme, the young rebel woman trapped by the formality of monarchy, confined in his own planet in AOTC, fall in love with the caring son confined by his vow and his duty.

It's key to my understanding of how to improve the movies that Anakin should never go to Tattoine, except at the end of the movie, when it's too late, and he cries, and bitches about Obiwan with all the right in the world. And Padme says it's right to be angry.

We just see shmi's body, no need of the Tuskens, and same effect