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Lucasfilm clarifies the future of the EU — Page 6

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TheBoost said:

Whatever. You're probably a paid shill for  £u¢a$Film and Di$n€y.  

You forgot the yen mark in Disney.

真実

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Fang Zei said:

You gotta wonder if there's gonna be a huge backlash to all of this. As noted earlier in the thread, a lot of fans on fb, tfn and elsewhere are pretty pissed about this already. I can't say I blame them.

Where was this backlash when Lucas blatantly contradicted the EU with the PT? Why does Abrams and the ST receive so much scorn when Lucas gets off scot-free without so much as a slap on the wrist?

These fans are all double-standardizing, cognitive dissonant @$$#%!&$, and they deserve to have their insular bubble burst.

Exactly, Duracell. This is exactly how I feel. 

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I suppose Obi-Wan and Owen *could* be brothers. The prequels need not necessarily preclude it. Cliegg Lars moved to Tatooine some time after giving up Obi-Wan to the Jedi Order. (The difference in their last names isn't a counter-argument, because it would have been a consideration at the time of the ROTJ novelization anyway.)

Without a religious hierarchy with infallible pronouncements to interpret this for me, my computerized mind produces logical rationalizations. My mind is going. I can feel it.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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^If you have to introduce more universe-shrinkage to make sense of a shrunken universe, then it's best to just toss that universe out and buy a brand new one which fits.

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Just taking a principle to its extreme, that's all. 

I'm still enjoying EU stories, by the way. But all the same, I'd rather read things that aren't in as immediate danger of being overruled. I won't pretend like it doesn't matter at all, but I'm not going to let it cast a shadow over the things I enjoy.

I'll find some novels to get into other than post-ROTJ or Clone War era entries. Maybe Kenobi or something. Or the Empire and Rebellion series, since the new "canon" Luke book was supposed to be #3.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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Why not the original Marvel comics. They were non-canon but mined for content way before it was cool. =P

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I like Zahn's point of view on this. Very level-headed.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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(It hasn’t happened yet)

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Fang Zei said:

You gotta wonder if there's gonna be a huge backlash to all of this. As noted earlier in the thread, a lot of fans on fb, tfn and elsewhere are pretty pissed about this already. I can't say I blame them.

Where was this backlash when Lucas blatantly contradicted the EU with the PT? Why does Abrams and the ST receive so much scorn when Lucas gets off scot-free without so much as a slap on the wrist?

These fans are all double-standardizing, cognitive dissonant @$$#%!&$, and they deserve to have their insular bubble burst.

Well if it is true that they used Lucas' storyline for ST, then it is still Lucas to blame for non-consistencies.

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imperialscum said:

Well if it is true that they used Lucas' storyline for ST, then it is still Lucas to blame for non-consistencies.


And for both world wars, and AIDs, and cancer, and the assassination of JFK. In short, Lucas is to blame for everything, really.

The recent news about the EU won't really affect me. The quality of the writing won't improve just because these new books are going to be canon. Timothy Zahn, James Luceno and Matthew Stover are not the yardstick by which EU writers seem to be measured; Kevin J Anderson seems to be the accepted standard.

That's some bad hat, Harry
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Easterhay said:

And for both world wars, and AIDs, and cancer, and the assassination of JFK. In short, Lucas is to blame for everything, really.

Wait, you're only realizing this now? 

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DuracellEnergizer said:

^If you have to introduce more universe-shrinkage to make sense of a shrunken universe, then it's best to just toss that universe out and buy a brand new one which fits.

 

^^^^This.

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DuracellEnergizer said:



Easterhay said:

And for both world wars, and AIDs, and cancer, and the assassination of JFK. In short, Lucas is to blame for everything, really.


Wait, you're only realizing this now? 


Well, I am a slow learner lol

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Fang Zei said:

You gotta wonder if there's gonna be a huge backlash to all of this. As noted earlier in the thread, a lot of fans on fb, tfn and elsewhere are pretty pissed about this already. I can't say I blame them.

Where was this backlash when Lucas blatantly contradicted the EU with the PT? Why does Abrams and the ST receive so much scorn when Lucas gets off scot-free without so much as a slap on the wrist?

These fans are all double-standardizing, cognitive dissonant @$$#%!&$, and they deserve to have their insular bubble burst.

 Lucas got off scott free because Star Wars is HIS. Even without it being spelled out, everyone knew the movies were more important than ancillary media. 

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I've always dug the artwork\style of comic books, but have never been one to sit and read or collect them.  More of an admirer of the art form.  That said, I do read the Star Wars comic strips regularly http://dailysw.blogspot.com/.

Anyway, with all the discussion of the future of the EU and in particular the comic books, I decided to look back at the early versions.  The first ones, to be precise. 

I discovered that they were combined into a paperback many years ago.  Now that is something I'd sit down and read.  Don't care that it's B&W, don't care that it's smaller  (shut up Frink).  ;-)

What are the board's thoughts on this?  There are plenty of them available used;

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Marvel_Comics_Illustrated_Version_of_Star_Wars

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Anchorhead,

I loved those comics as a kid. Before VCRs, I read and reread the adaptation of Star Wars hundreds of times. 

I still say "LO! The Moons of Yavin!" when the planet appears on the screen.

Compared to your digest copy in the link, I had the extra large versions as a kid. They must have looked comical in my little hands.

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Anchorhead said:

I've always dug the artwork\style of comic books, but have never been one to sit and read or collect them.  More of an admirer of the art form.  That said, I do read the Star Wars comic strips regularly http://dailysw.blogspot.com/.

Anyway, with all the discussion of the future of the EU and in particular the comic books, I decided to look back at the early versions.  The first ones, to be precise. 

I discovered that they were combined into a paperback many years ago.  Now that is something I'd sit down and read.  Don't care that it's B&W, don't care that it's smaller  (shut up Frink).  ;-)

What are the board's thoughts on this?  There are plenty of them available used;

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Marvel_Comics_Illustrated_Version_of_Star_Wars

 I actually have that somewhere, but yeah, you're going to need a magnifying glass. IIRC, the ESB adaptation paperback was printed in color and had the original concept art Yoda panels before they were altered to reflect his actual movie look. I also have one that collects a couple stories that only ran in the British weekly tabloid version of the comic.

If you want the most bang for your buck, Dark Horse reprinted the entire Marvel Run in Omnibus form.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/star-wars-omnibus-howard-chaykin/1110791828?ean=9781595824868

The only downside with all the collected reprints is, you don't get the goofy ads or letters column. It's fun to read what fans had to say back then.

Where were you in '77?

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SilverWook said:

If you want the most bang for your buck, Dark Horse reprinted the entire Marvel Run in Omnibus form.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/star-wars-omnibus-howard-chaykin/1110791828?ean=9781595824868

The only downside with all the collected reprints is, you don't get the goofy ads or letters column. It's fun to read what fans had to say back then.

 Oh man.  That looks like the way to go.  Should have it ordered by the end of the day.  Thanks. 

I found a site where someone scanned a bunch of pages.  No kidding on the readers' thoughts.  What a trip.

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I need to pick it up myself eventually. I'm a little afraid to handle my original issues too much these days.

The early letters accusing the good folks at Marvel of inserting "new" scenes into George's storyline are hilarious. And there were later suggestions Vader and Doctor Doom should team up. If only they knew! ;)

Where were you in '77?

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Anchorhead said:

SilverWook said:

If you want the most bang for your buck, Dark Horse reprinted the entire Marvel Run in Omnibus form.

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/star-wars-omnibus-howard-chaykin/1110791828?ean=9781595824868

The only downside with all the collected reprints is, you don't get the goofy ads or letters column. It's fun to read what fans had to say back then.

 Oh man.  That looks like the way to go.  Should have it ordered by the end of the day.  Thanks. 

I found a site where someone scanned a bunch of pages.  No kidding on the readers' thoughts.  What a trip.

 I got that one. It and the next volume are the most... 'pure' being all written before ESB came out. 

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Yeah, I've been re-reading the volume 1 omnibus off and on for a few weeks now. Love it.

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TheBoost said:

Anchorhead,

I loved those comics as a kid. Before VCRs, I read and reread the adaptation of Star Wars hundreds of times. 

There was a time before VCRs!?

;)

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SilverWook said:

IIRC, the ESB adaptation paperback was printed in color and had the original concept art Yoda panels before they were altered to reflect his actual movie look.

Right and right. I have a copy that I got at an antique shop last year for $3. It's awesome.

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Ordered it.  Looking forward to having a new way to escape to the uncontaminated original story.

Thanks again fellas.

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There be comics here!

The larger\color version isn't here yet.  Man, it's tempting to order a second one and take it apart for scanning.  Love the artwork.

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TCW Anakin is more like Anakin as Obi-Wan described him in the OT while Anakin in the rest of the prequel-era EU is more like Anakin in the prequels. This means that there's a major plus to the legends announcement: besides the prequels themselves, we can say bye-bye to prequel Anakin!