Both of these candidates throw around figures and dates without much discretion Jimbo. I stayed tuned after the debates and there was a section, something to the effect of "truth squad" or somesuch. At any rate, the simple fact is that they are politicians. And as such it seems they are incapable of a statement without some manipulation to serve their interest.
You really cant take the opinions given by partisan persons for anything other than party support. Ill admit that Bush made some blows, so did Kerry...but to hear it from a partisan observer, ie Hillary Clinton, or the woman who is the head of Bush's campaign (sorry, forget her name) they would have you believe that this was a one sided debate. A landslide in favor of the candidate flying their colors. Which is all well and good...thats the climate. But seriously, the only way to have an informed opinion is watch for yourself, or read a transcript. Let any biases in your understanding be your own.
I just really urge people to find in themselves what they want for our country. Dont vote down party lines, dont vote on one single matter, as important as it may be, we are talking about the future of our country as a whole. While I think its important for people to have strong convictions on specific issues (abortion, taxes, war, same sex marriages, social security) I think that basing your vote entirely on the stance of a candidate on only one of these issues is shortsighted.
Im not directing this at anyone in particular on the thread, or board, or in general. The only thing Im urging people to do directly is to think for yourself and decide based on that. And truthfully, it seems that most of the people on this thread/forum are doing that. So, im not really lecturing, just ranting. Sorry.

Lethe