twister111 said:

DrCrowTStarwars said:
that is an impressive feat for a show that has to set up it's own universe for viewers that have not seen all the movies,set up it's own characters that don't come from comics,and tie into movies two of which came out while the series was airing. I can't think of any other show that has ever had to do that

Shows generally have to create their own characters not in some comic so that's not exactly new. Plus interconnected movies/tv has been attempted before Star Trek, Power Rangers, X-Files, and plenty more. You can argue the MCU does it better if you like but it's not entirely new ground. That's okay though so long as the show continues to get better it doesn't need to be "First!" at doing interconnected movies/tv.

DrCrowTStarwars said:
I agree the show is great and I think the early episodes were needed,the episodes we have had over the past few weeks would not have had nearly as much impact(For me at least)if we hadn't been given time to get to know the characters and if a normal pattern for adventures had not been set up first. Once you have that pattern then when you shake things up it has a real impact. For instance The Best of Both Worlds is one of the best Star trek stories ever but would have had nearly as much impact if it had been the pilot instead of an episode at the end of season three? I don't think so. The reason these stories have the impact they do is because they shake up what we were told to expect,if you don't know the characters then it really has no impact when their world is shaken up. Some people may think the first 12 episodes or so were filler but I see them as fun adventures and needed set up for what we have now and so far I have enjoyed every episode of the series to some degree.

While I agree that the previous episodes weren't filler or even that bad the thing that killed a lot of the momentum from them was the airing schedule. The types of episodes they were producing with the time they were airing really doesn't match. To justify the 1 or 2 new episodes a month they were doing for a while they needed the episodes to be more like a well written twilight zone episode. Episodes that work sort of like a movie themselves sort of like Batman:TAS. The episodes they were giving weren't that except for two the pilot and Yes men. Well actually just the pilot "Yes men" may work as an "event" type episode but the original twilight zone episodes I've seen are better written. The pilot isn't exactly that level, writing wise, but it's close enough. They're episodes that really needed a steady weekly schedule otherwise it creates the disdain many people have for those episodes right now. Calling them "filler" and whatnot. I just hope that they don't do the same airing schedule faux pas next time.

Yeah I agree about that if you are going to do only two episode every once in a while they have to be really good but I hate to break this to you but ABC does this sort of airing two episodes and then taking a month off thing all the time and yet they don't give the producers much of a heads up about it or give them more time to produce episode,they just put them on short vacations instead of giving them extra time to work on each episode. The suits seem to think it maximizes ratings or something like that and it gives them more time slots to air stuff like wife swap and dancing with the stars. I know because my mom is a huge fan of Castle and she is always complaining about it. It doesn't bother me too much(Then again I grew up watching a lot of BBC shows where you are lucky to get 12 episodes a year so I may not reflect the average viewer)but I can see how it would bother other people because the show starts to get movie then then you are hit with a multiweek break so they can air more dancing with the stars or some such garbage. Still other all you do get two or three times the number of episodes a year you get from your average BBC show so there is that I guess. Still I think they are shooting themselves in the foot and should stop doing it but unless there is a radical power shift at the top of ABC I don't see that happening any time soon. I am afraid it is just something you have to put up with when a show you like airs on ABC,that or just wait for the DvD. Oh yeah ABC only releases it's shows on DvD. That is another thing that bugs me. They broadcast the shows in HD but then only release them in SD. When I can get a Person of Interest boxset for $25 that includes both Blurays and DvDs in the same box this just bugs me. It's why I record ABC shows off of the air in HD and burn them on to Blurays myself.
Still none of this stuff is controlled by the producers and I am not about to let it ruin the show for me.

I am really looking forward to the Agent Carter series and it will be interesting to see if it set in WW2 or the cold war. Either setting would works so I am wondering which the producers will choose.