muddyknees2000 said:
.Mac. said:
If I remember right, it was the idea to swap the order of those two SE shots, right? First show the outside shot of hundreds of people THEN show the interior hallway shot of the 3 persons. I would have preferred this order too, definitely. It makes more sense that people would stop and intently listen to his message after hearing more of what he was saying, rather than immediately at the beginning.
While that does make some amount of sense that was not my specific issue with the scene. The original has R2 plugging in and getting shocked immediately......the SE version now has a very lengthy amount of time between R2 deploying his interface tool (sounds dirty no matter how you say it), and finally plugging in. He literally sits there and does nothing the entire time Lando is making his speech....and they're supposed to be in a wicked hurry. They've also trimmed off a couple of seconds of R2 footage in which we see a very cool pulse of tiny lights on his interface tool.....another detail lost to shoddy SE editing.
Just bugs me and I'd have liked to have seen it restored....I even had someone (might have been JT) edit me up a clip that restored the original timing of everything while keeping the SE additions....and another that reduced the wait time before R2 finally plugs in to about half of what it is in the SE (just to have more than one option).....but the problem isn't a visual one, it's an audio one. The original, unaltered audio doesn't exist in enough separated channels for Ady to do a thing about it......most unfortunately.
I knew there had to be good reason for it. Such a shame I did not notice the R2 scene either I will check that today just for curiosity. How ironic though that the decent audio does not exist in enough channels but the shoddy one does.
So the mix Ady is using is not from the Gout for the audio edits he did make? like Fett and Leia's lines...
And that mix obviously has not got the audio needed to restore it?
I have never worked with 5:1 or 7:1 audio surround mixes but I am pretty sure that a bass track could be created from using a filter and slinging that audio on that channel and the mid -top end across the stereo channels. Not everything needs surround sound channel sound. the center channel could just be a mono mix of the stereo. assuming it would not cause any phasing issues. Without fully understanding both surround mixes and the actual problem with the other mix and how they are incompatible I can't really offer any help there but I am sure you have done your best with it. But I would be happy to try and help on this if it's what you wanted to do.
I don't mind the special edition views during the announcement that much but I do feel it pulls the viewer out the moment. the large crowd exterior one is ok. I don't like the corridor shot at all.
You can hear the better take from the radio drama here for C3PO's lines that sound muffled in the original soundtrack. If that could be fixed I think it would be some consolidation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=PLC83AC944D382CF7F&v=Whlt5gOuu4o#t=397